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    i don’t think posts about him are appropriate here. the kind of dystopia wants to bring is not the boring kind. it’s straight up cartoonish shit, like the government from v for vendetta

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    There is a saying…

    Make a mistake once and you can call it learning, make a mistake twice and you are eh… not so smart

    Americans need education.

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    Hopefully dems nominate someone who actually has soul instead of a walking checklist like Kamala. Oh, who am I kidding? They won’t learn anything from this either.

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        Barring something extreme, probably so. There might be legal challenges available but it does not look like Pennsylvania was close enough to possibly flip.

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          Mutual aid will be more important than ever, join and build up your local groups if you’re able, it will pay off in dividends in the coming years.

          This election has only proven how electoralism cannot be relied upon, it’s just us now. We need to build the world we want to live in, without corporate influence.

          • Search your local area + ‘mutual aid’.
          • Help your local food not bombs.
          • Create a worker owned cooperative with your friends if possible, or join an existing one.
          • Help spread the meshtastic network to build up communication resilience in your community.
          • Plant trees in your community to help reduce the heat island effect for the coming heatwaves.
          • Create or join a community garden near you to bolster food availability and foster connections with those around you.
          • engage in guerrilla urbanism, make your community safer to walk or bike
          • encourage your coworkers to unionize under the IWW, contact them for help on how to unionize your workplace.
          • vote in your local elections to try and have a state or city government that is less hostile to the above actions, but continue to build decentralized power independently of them regardless. Do not make the mistake of handing off the responsibility to make things better to them, it’s up to YOU, and your community, and hopefully other nearby communities doing the same, but that is all.

          We have tremendous collective power if we just use it, and hopefully this outcome will result in us coming together and building that world in the shell of the old. Collective solidarity is our only solution left.

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            I’m expecting that to happen, from his own camp. It’d be a perfect excuse to pull another Patriot Act and turn the screws just a bit more, pushing the nation further into an authoritarian police state.

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        Can we at least get a thorough recount to be sure this election wasn’t tampered with? It’s a dream scenario with 15% less voter turnout even for the right (more on the left). They’d call for one if Harris won, they got one last time.

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      It will take significantly more pain for the fat and comfortable imperial core that is the continental US to be open to such things. Incidentally, it’s that exact pain Trump appears eager to inflict. So we’ll have to wait and see.

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      This is definitively the president that the country has chosen. What’s there to not let happen?

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        Well, Biden could legally have him killed by seal team six.
        I’m not advocating for anything, just pointing out what trumps lawyer successfully argued.

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          That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.

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              That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.

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                Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.

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                  The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality

                  Doesn’t look like that from where I’m standing.

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          Well considering the seal that killed bin Laden is a loud Trump supporter, their probably just turn around and kill Biden

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          I feel like he should attempt to order that to see if anyone is willing to carry it out, for no other reason than to see if they’re willing to do the same when Trump orders it.

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      JD Vance is a more effective stooge, because he does what he’s told without question. Trump at least has his particular brand of self-defeating chaos.

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      There is an interesting question as to what happens if he dies before being sworn in. It’s not clear what succession looks like then, I think…

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        Likely JD Vance will be chosen as president, he gets some similar weirdo as a vice-president. He will be exactly like Trump, but without the charm.

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          I’m not as sure.

          I hate Vance and he’d be a terrible President, but he also was firmly anti-Trump before, and only became a Trump sycophant for political reasons.

          If Trump dies he may feel the freedom to do what he wants to do as President, while claiming to be Trump’s heir to the personality cult.

          At this point it’s our best outcome.

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            There’s actually a few more:

            • undisputable evidence for destroying ballots, or some other stuff
            • a lone gunman 3: this time an army professional with better guns
            • unfaithful electors
            • Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”
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              If the Dems took the House, some of those might be perversely better. But between Vance and Johnson, I’d take Vance.

              And enough states have laws to prevent unfaithful electors to keep that from being an option.

              I absolutely believe Trump won. The dems pushed hard on abortion while abortion was separately on the ballots in several swing states, so even for the virtually unheard-of single-issue pro-choice voters, they could just take care of that with the ballot initiative and then vote for Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the pro-life voters doubled-down against the Dems.

              Pro-choice-centered campaigns have always been general election poison. The disasterous 2022 elections should have taught the Dems that. Or Wendy Davis’s 2014 Texas Gubanatorial campaign when she ran on abortion rights and lost by over 20 points in an open election against an unpopular Greg Abbot. At that time, Texas had only elected 2 Republican governors since the previous Democratic woman, and even Perry almost lost the Governor’s mansion in 2006.

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              Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”

              Wow, that would be quite a thing. Dark to even think of him being the hero we need, but don’t deserve…

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                I am 100% sure that Biden doing anything at all that would change the outcome of the election would lead to rural versus urban civil war. Maybe that’s what we need. But it will be unbelievably terrible.

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            I hate Vance and he’d be a terrible President, but he also was firmly anti-Trump before, and only became a Trump sycophant for political reasons.

            He’s Peter Thiel’s property, so he’ll do whatever he tells him to do. And Thiel is a weird, evil and intelligent man. A Vance presidency would probably be less insane and more calculating (for better and for worse) than Trump at least.

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          Honestly, a smarter version of trump as president is a very concerning thought. I am not sure if it is better or much much worse.

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      trump may very well die within the next 4 years, even 4 weeks after all that campaigning strain, but I am just no sure if JD wouldn’t make everything worse if he got hold of the reins?

      One thing is sure President Vance would be a total shit show.

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        but I am just no sure if JD wouldn’t make everything worse if he got hold of the reins?

        Honestly, it feels like the only hope is that things get bad enough for enough Trump supporters (and non-voters) to wake up to reality. And since Vance himself doesn’t seem to have the moron-whisperer charisma that Trump has, they may be more willing to turn on him.

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    A few thousand years ago the ancient Greeks said:

    “δὶς ἐξαμαρτεῖν οὐκ ἀνδρὸς σοφοῦ”.

    Roughly meaning: A wise person doesn’t make the same mistake twise.

    But again some people keep doing it

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    Now I can watch terminally online lefties lose their shit and seethe while knowing it’s not going to be nearly as bad as everyone says. It’s going to be entertaining to watch everyone freak out over nothing.

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      Trump already killed millions during COVID. Remember when a deadly disease broke out, killing millions, and the Republican stance was both “It doesn’t exist.” and “China did it.”?

      Literally a global pandemic and these people can’t even focus on a solution.

      It was 5 years ago.

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        1.2 million estimated in the US, especially if you track the “fell off a ladder, definitely Covid” stuff.

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        It killed hundreds of thousands, not millions, but your point still stands. If I were Harris, I would’ve made a bigger deal about Trump’s COVID response, because I’m pretty sure that’s why he lost last time. Perhaps she didn’t want to do that because Biden wasn’t much better.

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      Have you read Project 2025? Your country will literally have a government that can implement all of this without resistance. If a group of people had enough fervour to write such a document, do you honestly think that with all this power they wouldn’t implement anything from it?

      On top of that, while the US pulls into itself and has a less global presence, it’s going to affect the global economy very negatively as the balance of power shifts. With DT at the helm, the balance of power will tip towards China being the next biggest economy.

      Anyway, you may not notice a big change unless you’re wealthy. Under DT, the poor stay poor but the rich get richer.

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        None of that’s going to get implemented, and the big money’s still going to be in charge, just like it always was. Conspiracy theories on the left, and the right, lol.