Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.

“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.

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    And what will the US do to prevent it then? Cut funding? Cut military aid? Declare War on Terror?

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      Nobody wants it to happen, the truth is that even the Arab world wants Palestine beaten and shoved into a corner, so they can keep using them as an excuse to hate. They don’t actually care about Palestinians, neither does Europe, that’s why they don’t want refugees or take in Palestinians who want out.

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          so many replies to this and yet not one of them has a link. i wonder why they’re having so much trouble backing up their positions

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          Well for one, Egypt was refusing most people fleeing the gaza strip, but that’s to be expected when 1.5 Million people try to leave at once.

          Egypt is also responsible for the terrorist organization that more or less runs the strip and attacked the festival a month ago, they were originally Egyptian.

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            Do you often just make things up on the internet?

            Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which are mortal enemies of the current of government of Egypt.

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              Exactly what I just said. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt, and after 2011 they won and briefly held 42% of parliament seats and the presidency, but luckily they were forced out of government soon after.

              Hamas’ biggest villain’s are from Egypt, the Egyptian people are more responsible for Hamas’ actions than Palestine, so I think it’s honestly very sad for Palestine to be trapped in a situation where there are enemies on all sides adding fuel to the fire.

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          Lol nobody shits on Muslims as much as other Muslims. Take Xinjiang, for example. Nobody fucking cares. Arabs always hated Palestinians too. Israel supplied more humanitarian aid to Gaza than whole of Muslim world combined (gifts to Hamas don’t count as humanitarian aid).

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            I don’t think Israeli aid counts as “aid” because it’s their obligation under intentional law governing occupation, and they have fallen short of these commitments.

            But it’s true, Arab governments don’t give shit about Palestinians. I mean, most governments around the world barely give a shit about their own people. The leaders of Egypt and Jordon and Lebanon have never demonstrated an interest in Palestinian statehood.

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        The Arab world has already taken millions of Palestinians.

        Pretty sure those countries doesn’t want yet more for:

        • the same reason no country wants a higher per capita percentage of refugees these days and

        • because they don’t want to give Israel and the US excuses to drone bomb them looking for HAMAS terrorists and

        • countries on the border with Israel don’t want it to have a reason for coming over their borders all the time, because that would likely end in border redrawings

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    This might be the first time I’ve heard a demand imposed on Israel from the US during this recent escalation. Hopefully, the first of many.

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        They make Kamala say all the stuff that they fear might backfire. She was also put in charge of stopping illegal immigration, knowing they really didn’t have any way to actually do it.

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      Yeah, it’s a long way from sufficient, but this is huge progress from active support for genocide.

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        Call me when they stop actively supporting genocide. Empty words are empty.

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      “Demand” from the otherwise completely powerless VP.

      Seems legit

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    Kinda silly in my opinion. What exactly do they think the systematic destruction of Gaza is? People should live in the rubble?

    They can’t rebuild since those kinds of tools could be used for weapons according to Israel.

    I see a lot of similarities between WWII Jewish ghettos and modern day Gaza. It looks like an aggregate oppressed becomes the oppressor syndrome, but I’m probably wrong.

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    What do you mean you won’t permit it? You mean you will actually try to stop Israel from doing it? Will you stop giving Israel money?

    Or are you just going to do nothing?

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    Israel: k we’ll just kill them all then. Thanks for the money and weapons btw

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    Uh huh.

    And yet she’s giving Israel bombs to destroy people’s homes. Literally forcibly relocating them. Never mind that 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated from their land 75 years ago.

    These statements are just cover for more Israeli murder. It’s designed to make people feel complacent.

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      Wait so 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated, why 50% of Gaza are children under 18…

      Make up your mind over your made up numbers please.

      And calling this war “Israeli murder” is ignoring the existence of actual terrorists who keep innocent civilians hostage, and who targeted attacked and murdered over 1,000 innocents.

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          Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.

          Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.

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            Yeah, when the IDF purposely bomb schools, hospitals, evacuation corridors which they told to evacuate through, UN facilitates, etc. that makes them murderers.

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              Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don’t be surprised that it’s being destroyed - in a war.

              Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That’s just hypocrisy.

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          Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you’ve been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can’t retaliate, you’re just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.

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              “murder does not justify more murder”

              The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don’t know that, you’re living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. “Murder isn’t justified” -> “war isn’t justified”. Very simple logic.

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                  Whatever, I really don’t care about what you think. You can blame it all on one side, ignoring the ruthlessness of the other on their enemies and even on their own citizens. Just ignore Hamas hiding guns in schools, ignore them firing rockets from public parks, ignore them targeting civilians (with no military infrastructure/personnel). Just ignore it all, and blame the jews for everything. Just like the 1930s. “War crimes” my ass. If you really cared about war crimes you would’ve complained to Hamas, not the IDF.

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    Will there be any Palestinians left to relocate when this genocide is over?

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      Lol what? Does anyone here think anyone in Israel is going to kill 2 million Gazans? It’s like no one here knows the difference between mass killings and wars. You don’t evacuate civilians in mass killings, you slaughter them in their homes (sort of like what Hamas did on 7/10)

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    Until the money faucet turns off, Israel will keep doing their thing

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    Um… They’ve already been pushed out of their homes and relocated. That was under the “circumstance” of Israel invading and killing them. I don’t think the phrase “under no circumstances” applies here.

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    Well shit, we couldn’t get Israel to acknowledge or respect borders in the past. There were no consequences then, so why should the Israeli government suddenly start caring now? They’ll take whatever they want, and the most that America might do is make a qualified, watered down complaint while still providing Israel with whatever military aid they ask for.

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      It already has happened and is actively happening as we speak, with weapons, money and intel from the US.

      And with US knowledge and permission. This is window dressing to cover for nazis like Netanyahu