• gastationsushi@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Biden started out well in 21 and 22 because he tried to appeal to his progressive base. That being said, Biden is a fucking moron if he believes his neolib pivot didn’t hurt his poll numbers.

    It’s not too late, Biden needs to pivot back to progressive policies instead of this blame the voters BS like Hillary tried. Blame leaders, not voters.

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      9 months ago

      So, you have a choice. a less than perfect candidate, or someone who has already endorsed the idea of suspending the Constitution and A-bombing Palestine.

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          9 months ago

          Why? When have you ever had a perfect candidate? I like what NYC ex-mayor Ed Koch said. “If you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a doctor.”

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              9 months ago

              Yeah, but in a first-past-the-post system, you don’t.

              Is that complete and utter crap, should the FPTP system be launched into the sun and replaced with a system that actually gave people choices, would a parliamentary system be better, is the Electorate College just an abomination based on a compromise with long dead slave owners, should every vote carry the same weight?

              Well, there you go.

              But in the current system, you’ll only ever have two choices.

              So choose wisely.

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                  9 months ago

                  How many times in U.S. History have the 3rd or 4th options been elected to the office of President? When the answer is zero, how do you count them as options?

                  You are literally more likely to win the lottery than you are to elect a third party to U.S. President.

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                    9 months ago

                    it’s my right to vote for the person I want to win. I don’t vote for people I don’t want to win.

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        9 months ago

        I will vote for a progressive, if trump is elected its on the center dems for failing.

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            9 months ago

            It happened because of the 40 years of failure of the democratic party in their ambivalence to the willing efforts of the republican party to destroy democracy. They will fail us in the defense of democracy. All that continues not to demand a fundamental change are the problem.

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                  9 months ago

                  Nah but they sure wanna act like it whenever they color their collaboration as revolutionary behavior

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                >If you had voted, Bernie would have been nominated, but you didn’t because “muh rigged system.”

                I did. the system is rigged.

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                  9 months ago

                  The system wasn’t rigged, Bernie’s “base” couldn’t be assed to turn out.

                  His support underperformed the share of millennials and Zoomers that were in the voting pool by then, nevermind how much they could have dominated with boomers leaning so much more to the Republicans.

                  Bernie lost because his supporters want all the praise of being revolutionary without doing any of the work of fermenting a revolution.

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                9 months ago

                >Y’all are the white moderates MLK had had the right amount of. All the words, none of the will to even do the barest minimum of the work of actually being an ally to the suffering of the oppressed in this country.

                wrong. white moderates are who Obama tried to woo by choosing the architect of the crime Bill as his running mate.

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                  9 months ago

                  You mean people who voted and put the first black man into the white house? They did more for civil rights than you are tryna justify why letting Caligula Jackson win is fine and dandy.