• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    The Houthis are not directly stacking Israel. Don’t twist my words. They were in response to your comment.

    Given how much trouble US and British troops have had moving in and around Somalia, how disastrously the war in Afghanistan and Iraq ended, and how inhospitable to modern western military hardware the Yemeni mountains have proven to be, I think the question is not whether EU/NA will give up the Suez but whether they can hang on to it.

    What you’re missing is it won’t be a peacekeeping mission or a nation building mission. They’re going to DMZ it. Anyone in area X not in a uniform, with a weapon, gets killed.

    But you’re just using more and more propaganda lines so I’m going to stop here.

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      10 months ago

      The Houthis are not directly stacking Israel.

      They are directly impacting the Israeli economy and security, by threatening a traffic lane vital for Israel’s continued existence.

      What you’re missing is it won’t be a peacekeeping mission or a nation building mission. They’re going to DMZ it.

      Getting your military advise from Douglas MacArthur? The man who threw up on the White House lawn when he found out he was heading up the war on the peninsula and suffered one of the most humiliating American military defeats since Lee surrendered at Appomattox?

      Anyone in area X not in a uniform, with a weapon, gets killed.

      Christ, its like you haven’t been paying attention to the last 50 years of US military history. Aerial bombardments have never successfully secured territory. All they’ve done is waste $10M ordinance on $100 targets.

      The Saudis have been bombing Yemen for a full decade. They’re better at building tunnel networks than the fucking Gazans.

      But you’re just using more and more propaganda lines

      You are shitting out your doo-doo ass and refusing to acknowledge the smell.

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        10 months ago

        Nobody said shit about it staying at aerial bombardments. Why do you think I’m so pissed? I know people who are going to end up there.

        And it’s still not impacting Israel’s economy. So the ships had to go around, supply is already re-established. Nobody going through the straight is going to Israel anymore because insurance won’t let them. So now the Houthis decided it’s the entire Western world which is just stupid. Like pissing in the wind. They’re getting people killed for nothing.

        And no. MacArthur is neither here nor there. He didn’t come up with the concept of a DMZ or militarized zone. I fully expect it to look like Eastern Turkey with a lot of stupid shit going on because some local dickhead though he could gain an ounce more street cred by attacking the West.

        But the way, they have now explicitly attacked American cargo ships for being American. If you look at American history you know we don’t back down. We only ever escalate once our civilians are being shot at. And we certainly aren’t going to give up on global trade just because a random warlord decided he could control international water.

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          10 months ago

          And it’s still not impacting Israel’s economy.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/31/gaza-war-costs-israel-economy/

          The Israeli economy has been damaged, too — and it is Israel more than Hamas that will decide when the shooting stops. Some economists compare the shock to the Israeli economy to the coronavirus pandemic in 2020. Others say it might be worse.

          Gross domestic product will fall — from forecasts of 3 percent growth in 2023 to 1 percent in 2024, according to the Bank of Israel. Some economists predict contraction.

          Tourism has flatlined. The Tel Aviv beaches and the Old City in Jerusalem are bereft of foreigners. Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank were canceled.

          Construction, which ordinarily relies on Palestinian labor from the West Bank, has ground to a near-halt. Since Israel launched its assault to eradicate Hamas, it has suspended the work permits of more than 100,000 Palestinians.

          Exports are down across the board. Israel’s gas fields in the Mediterranean Sea were shut down early in the war but are now partially operating.

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            10 months ago

            Tourism flat lining isn’t because of cargo ships. It’s because they’re fighting a war.

            Come on dude. Stop trying to conflate things.

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              10 months ago

              Tourism flat lining isn’t because of cargo ships. It’s because they’re fighting a war.

              The war is why they’re losing the cargo ships.

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                10 months ago

                And around you go. Like a spinning top. Have a nice day. And go miss the point professionally with someone else. Anyone else.