The US is sleepwalking into fascism. Well, don’t say we didn’t warn you.
Half of us are being dragged, the other half is pulling us. It’s illegal for the ones being dragged to protect themselves from the ones pulling us as we live in a state.
Then there’s the leftist non-voters who seem to think that if you don’t choose Republican or Democrat we default to peaceful communism.
I’d say it’s more like 40% of us are being dragged by 25% of us while 35% watch on, refusing to participate either way despite the fact that they’ll be dragged in next.
Ya, I was having trouble with the fractions, I figured people would get what I meant.
You either get dragged fast or slow. No difference.
The Gen Z voters fucking terrify me. They are turning against even Bernie Sanders, because of the fact that our government supports Israel. Like, they are willing to blow up everything for Palestine. Don’t get me wrong, I for damn sure support the Palestinian people and detest the genocide being perpetrated by Israel, but am I willing to allow my own country to fall to fascism because of their support for Israel? No! I won’t because allowing this country to fall to fascism is only going to let Israel continue their genocide, but under Trump our troops will join the fray and bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Yeah, as much as I make fun of the alt-right and their dumb culture war bullshit, some of the Gen Z on the left end of the spectrum are so willing to cast out all allies just because they detect one iota of dissent from a rapidly moving set of expectations, esp. when it comes to things like trans.
And it’s fracking dangerous. I look at what happened to the discussion forums on Boing Boing as an example of this. The assumption is that anyone not in the upper echelon of the oppression olympics intersectional game has to shut up and just listen to any opinion of someone in a certain set of groups, just because. Meaning, if you are white or male or both and cishet or xtian, then your opinion is worthless, unless you just repeat verbatim what one of the blessed members says. And even then, you might be accused of appropriating their arguments or being a white savior or whatever.
If they think that is any semblance of normal, or the way to fight fascism, build coalitions, or win elections, they are completely deluding themselves. If it was only places like Boing Boing it might be one thing. Unfortunately, that is just a very public example of it…
Oh, and same sentiments on the Gaza thing. What Israel is doing there is beyond belief in horribleness, but checking out or voting against Biden would make it far worse. What people that say “voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil” fail to see is that the alternative is getting even MORE evil than otherwise…
Oh, the fascists are waking wide-eyed awake straight into it. And they’re dragging the rest of us with them.
I’m wide awake, my heart is pounding, and my vocal chords are shredded from the screaming. Not all of us are asleep. 1/3rd of the country actually wants this.
1/3rd of the country actually wants this.
Not-so-fun fact: in 1930s Germany, the highest the Nazi Party ever performed in a national vote was 37%.
“Its like poetry, it rhymes.”
- George Lucas
It’s not sleepwalking if we all know that it’s happening and are screaming about it, but nobody in power is doing anything to stop it.
Fact is, like any normal distribution, 2/3 if American voters are uneducated centrists that dont understand how their system of government works or what the meaning of scary political words mean. To them, the world is just fine, but that Biden feller made me sleepy so fuck him.
Most Americans have no idea what is waiting for them on January 21st 2025.
sick of this talking point, we’re wide awake and the warning signs are all there.
Yep law and justice is either complicit or nutless and that’s why we’re all sweating this.
What worries me is that we keep getting reassured that someday, at least one of these 91 charges will stick and it will take care of everything. But I see absolutely zero reason to believe that there will be any consequences whatsoever. The delay tactics have thus far been working and his popularity just grows and grows.
We are wide awake and still letting it happen; and we see it happen in other countries the world over. My only conclusion is that this is what people want.
I disappointingly keep finding out people at work support him and now I just assume no matter how decent someone might appear… they probably deep down are shit. I have to awkwardly avoid conversations about their dumb world views whenever politics come up. It’s concerning the number of every day people that want this shit.
It’s always from someone who doesn’t live in the US, too.
Trump is a danger to the world. Put him in prison.
Fucking put him somewhere. Depth is optional imo.
Launch him into the fucking sun.
An amazing fairy tale would be Cheeto chimp in gen pop.
Isn’t that illegal?
Yes. Now ask if anyone will stop him.
Umm…. Will anyone stop him?
Their silence is your answer.
Voters, hopefully.
If not them, then no.
So… how does one stay out of the camps?
Be white and don’t speak out when the atrocities start.
Haha - believe it or not- straight to the camps.
It’ll be a hard sell to military leadserhip I think
Has that honestly ever stopped Trump before?
Not if you’re the president.
Lolbruh doesn’t matter.
Ah yes, the nazi wants to build concentration camps to murder the brown people. This is in line with his platform.
The irony with this is that the vulnerable people crossing the border would otherwise pick up low wage manufacturing and menial labor jobs that create wealth for the nation and farmers, but it seems that republicans are banking on poor white babies to grow up and accept those jobs in 14 years and be good republican voters. I don’t see the pendulum swinging so hard to the right that the strategy would ever work.
The only voter strategy they care about is rigging districts until they’re guaranteed power. Hungary is their model, if you want to look into how Orban has essentially made himself dictator.
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I guess this means the 2nd amendment crowd finally gets their opportunity to use their stockpiled guns against the government in a case like this? /s
Yes, exactly right. You do not need the /s at all because that is the purpose of 2A.
that doesn’t work though when at least half of the 2nd amendment supporters voted for fascism. What are they going to do, take up arms against the party they voted into power themselves?
This exactly. These fascists will point their guns squarely at liberals and Democrats in the name of their country.
Remember when Trump said he could shoot a person in Times Square and get away with it?
His supporters loved him for that because they want to do this too. They want to get away with murdering people.
Make no mistake: we will have another coup if Trump is “elected”. The question is will there be enough people to stand up and rise against it.
I hate to say it but I’m not optimistic on that.
I am still curious how it works in their mind. They see troops deployed and they what exactly, random acts of terrorism? Like you look at the places that led successful guerilla campaigns against real militaries and they are all in places where real poverty is rampant. Not talking about you live in a trailer and work at Target. More like you grow opium in some valley in Afghanistan or rice in Vietnam. Remember the Bundy Ranch guys ordering takeout?
I can’t see any gun owner I know just deciding to go live in the woods, willing to survive on what food they can salvage while getting their own kids to plant landmines.
Said no constitutional scholar not on the NRA’s payroll.
Yep! And no, we won’t be fighting tanks and drones. As with all politics, the fight will be local. We’ll be fighting the local Committee for Public Safety, Brown Shirts, etc.
If you think the Brown Shirts won’t magically get armored vehicles and air support then you didn’t pay attention to the part where the Brown Shirts turned into the SS and Gestapo.
Yes, but they start somewhere. And they are not starting in my hood.
Those in charge in the government are not dumb, they’ve learned over 100+ years how to propagandize those that want guns to not see them as the enemy. It’s not a coincidence that the gun nuts are courted by the right.
He might want to check to see how the troops and their leaders feel about that.
He (probably will be) the executive branch of the government. Unless his orders illegally suspend constitutional rights, the military must follow their CICs orders.
Edit: for all of the downvoters, what about Trump’s plan to deploy troops on American soil is illegal?
Not necessarily, the American military operates on chain of command. The worry is the current blocking of military appointments over bullshit. If they can steal long enough trump can install people who will follow his orders. Otherwise you can deny an unlawful order. Trump can only give orders to those ranked immediately below him.
I refused an unlawful order once.
It helped that everyone enlisted immediately agreed, but it escalated up the chain of command very quickly after we asked for a written order until it was agreed that it was a miscommunication and never happened.
To be fair they could order you to do a lot and just hope you do the implied, even verbally said, but unwritten thing. But when I was in we had clear training about what was and wasn’t unlawful to prevent abuse. If we had done it and had no proof we were really 100% officially ordered then it could have been pinned on us. Which is why my first response was, is that an order? Followed with citing the written order that said we could not do that thing and asking for a written order to do the thing. Just following orders works both ways.
For the uninitiated, asking for your verbal orders to be written out or asking for another soldier to be present in the military is a giant red flag. You can’t just say no in most cases. But the sub text is the experienced enlisted soldier knows it’s going to go horribly wrong. It’s generally the last warning an officer gets if they’re doing truly stupid things.
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Okay, so hypothetical situation, Trump makes an illegal order to General so-and-so. General refuses to comply. Trump has that General removed and replaced with a sycophant. In this actual case, he’s saying he’ll deploy troops on the ground on American soil, which I don’t believe is an illegal order.
Believe Hayes made it illegal. There a few exclusions though, if I remember correct, an insurrection was one of the exclusions. I imagine Desantis knew this when he stated he would put troops on the other side of the border in Mexico, not realizing that would clearly look/be an invasion of Mexico. Or realizing and being dumb enough to think that was a smart move.
There are precedent for not following illegal orders. The Nuremberg trials made that point very clear.
The Nuremberg trials were only allowed to happen because of how badly the Nazis were beaten at the end of WW2. They also didn’t possess nuclear weapons. If the Americans were about to critically lose a war like the Nazis did, to the point where they would be standing trial for warcrimes a la the Nuremberg Trials, they would probably detonate their arsenal.
Also, is it illegal to deploy troops on your own soil? I wasn’t aware of that rule.
You’re assuming it’s illegal. I’m pretty sure the commander-in-chief can declare various types of emergencies and deploy a response, at will. The potentially illegal part is theres usually limits, including very short time periods, unless congress ratifies the choice. Then who’s in half of congress is so far up Trump’s ass, they’d ratify covfefe
Fun fact, deploying troops inside the US is very restricted without an act of Congress to create an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act. Unless he tries to invoke the insurrection act. But at that point he would be asking the military to suspend civil law and order in an area. And that’s absolutely something that requires the military to consent to doing.
Democratic Peoples Republic of Trumpistan
If that demented orange rapist thinks so much as misfires a neuron in that direction, his retirement will arrive immediately. They think we’re fucking around?! MARK IT ZERO.
it is SUCH bullshit that our useless, pathetic, so-called “journalists” just watch this shit go by and pretend it’s just something that happens. They literally can not call him an anti-American coup-plotting traitor and a fascist.
Fortunately, we don’ need no steenking corporate news.
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Execute that fucking traitor - legally or otherwise - then use his fat, rotting corpse as a public pissoir.
I was with you until you called him fat lol
If your sensibilities toward that traitor are triggered, replace ‘fat’ with ‘bloated’. Or perhaps ‘overflowing with his own ego’.
Lol, the fat fuck should be put on a treadmill until he collapses.
Everything else aside for a moment, trump sure it’s an incapable little bitch that is really just a mouth piece for stephan miller. trump is so weak, stupid and powerless even his hate and fascist tendencies have to be directed by another idiot. Little-handed clown boy.
If you don’t think a Trump presidency would result in an invasion of
PolandMexico, you might want to pick up a history book.Buy a firearm.
You mean like police?
It’s like Emperor Palpatine, but credulous.
