…yeah, I’m sure Trump will have your back…

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    Oh, I thought my first comment to you was expecting you to run the entire Democratic Party because you knew that speculation was going to result in answers you didn’t want to say.

    Guess you stopped pretending.

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      I never said you expected me to run the entire Democratic Party. Why are you lying now?

      EDIT: Proof you’re lying-

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        I never said you expected me to run the entire Democratic Party.

        I’m not sure why you’re asking me as if I control them.

        Doesn’t sound like a response to scolding to me.

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          As I showed in my edit where I pasted it, that is expressly not saying you expected me to run the party. I’m not sure why you’re doubling down on your lie.

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          Here- I’ll even expand it to show your lie in greater detail.

          Please triple and quadruple down. That should be rich.

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            That wasn’t a lie. As your screenshot clearly shows, I asked questions that you didn’t want to answer, so instead you freaked out and pretended that I was acting like you control the party.

            Now, what part of my comment was scolding? Because that was a massive lie on your part.

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              No, you asked me questions I couldn’t answer. I didn’t freak out or pretend anything. Those are lies. The screenshots prove they are lies.

              As far as scolding, here’s just one example:

              Of course, once you found out I was disabled, you claimed you weren’t talking about me, which is clearly nonsense.

              Now, unless you are going to admit you lied, I think I can safely block you and move on to scolding other people for choosing to vote the way they feel is the best way to vote.

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                No, you asked me questions I couldn’t answer.

                Except with speculation. But you and I both know the answer to my questions because not only have Democrats done it before when Clinton lost to Trump, they do it every time some group they’ve alienated and betrayed doesn’t turn out for them.

                As far as scolding, here’s just one example:

                That’s not the very first thing I said to you, as you claimed. And there’s no scolding in that comment. I wasn’t telling you to do anything any different from what you were doing. But I will now: Don’t expect to be able to nag people into voting for people who betray them. It doesn’t work in all cases, no matter how many times apologists redouble their efforts. Particularly if the people you’re being self-righteous at aren’t even the people who are withholding their votes.

                The only thing you’ve accomplished in this entire thread is patting yourself on the back for sticking with a party that betrayed us both. That won’t get any votes to return. We’re right back where we started. The same people who are withholding their votes are still withholding their votes. That hasn’t changed. Lectures work on me, but not them. How do you suppose we should get them back? What should we advocate for the party to do? Any ideas? Mine involve the party changing its ways and treating people whose votes it needs like it needs their votes, but that won’t happen.

                Consider this: during the Trump years, Democrats opposed Trump’s bigoted actions against Muslims. During the Biden administration, Democrats are supporting the nation that’s bombing refugee camps. Those who came here as refugees might take that not only as an indicator that they were used for political utility and then tossed aside when it became expedient to do so, but also as an indicator that the only way to get either party on their side is to have Republicans in office. That’s not a great place for the Democratic party to be.

                Or don’t consider it. And move on to scolding other people for choosing to vote contrary to your sense of entitlement.