Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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    Until they have a chance to actually change anything for good for themselves - yes. Palestinians couldn’t unsteal the lands so October 7th was useless. Israel will be able to prevent terrorists attack for a few years so the ground operation is not useless

    Or, hamas could just surrender and release all hostages to immediately stop what’s happening right now.

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        Deranged an inhuman is to do terrorism, knowing that not only people are going to die, but your people are, too, going to die and suffer as a result. There is zero “protection” or “justice” in these actions and trying to justify them with anything like “but they are occupiers so it’s okay to attack them” is beyond foolish.

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          Expecting humans to act like robots is quite literally inhuman. They’re pissed off and desperate. That has not not ever in human history resulted in negotiations. This entire line of reasoning is only meant to make Palestinians look like violent savages when the reality is this is how Apartheid and anti colonial struggles have always looked.

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            Expecting humans to act like robots is quite literally inhuman.

            Expecting humans to not resort to useless terrorism is nothing like that.

            They’re pissed off and desperate.

            Doesn’t mean they can kill anyone and remain unaffected by consequences.

            That has not not ever in human history resulted in negotiations.

            I’m not sure I understand this sentence. What is “that”? What is “not not”?

            This entire line of reasoning is only meant to make Palestinians look like violent savages when the reality is this is how Apartheid and anti colonial struggles have always looked.

            I’m not even trying to make Plaestinians look bad and I know some of them really want to kill (some did killed) jews in order to become heroes. They are victims of hamas in several ways, but it doesn’t save them. Why? Because Gaza is at war, and, as a war participant, it’s unique in how it doesn’t care about its civilians during a war. Hamas’ only defense is hostages, and Palestinians are not much different from hostages. That’s why there may be a lot of casualties, not because Israel is “a bloody monster” or whatever.

            I think everyone should drop the whole apartheid/colonialism thing and realize that it can’t be solved with current hamas’ approach. Maybe it could be solved if Gaza cared to make itself a proper country, to become independent, sustainable and responsible. Maybe also abandoning radical religion could help.

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              If the Palestinians are hostages why isn’t Israel allowing them to leave the combat area?

              I’m done here. You’re still asserting that this collective punishment is some kind of natural response to the Hamas attack but are completely ignoring any human nature on the side of the Gazans. They have to remain ultra rational while being shot at but the Israelis are allowed to have emotion.

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                Israel’s response is closer to natural response than what hamas is doing. You don’t have to be ultra rational to understand there is no way to achieve their goal (to kill all Jews) and to remain in a normal relationship with the rest of the world.

                Israel demonstrates some emotional reactions, yes. But the core logic is still there: as before, the ground operation is started only when the point of “iron dome is no longer enough to keep terrorists at place” is reached.