• DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world
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      This is the third fucking time Democrats have run with an establishment candidate.

      I voted Harris but I knew she was a shit candidate and not who we needed to go against Trump. She couldn’t even primary ffs.

      The DNC is squarely to blame, every time people blame the voters and nothing fucking changes. You can’t keep putting up generic neocon establishment hand-picked candidates and expect turnout.

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        every time people blame the voters and nothing fucking change

        I blame all the voters that were fine with voting for Trump first, because they looked at that shit stain and thought he would be acceptable as the leader of the country. The people that voted for him are the problem.

        Harris still did a terrible job, sure. But a literal pile of dogshit should have been a preferable option to Trump.

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          No I think it’s time to look inwards now. The only people to blame is ourselves and the trust we put into the DNC. They have broken our trust over and over again. It’s fucking time to rip the bandaid off and just focus on organizing and rooting out the people and issues that led to this failure in leadership. I don’t think I’m being dramatic in saying: they have completely failed us and robbed us of a secure future. I’m young, and this supreme court and all the shit to come is going to haunt me until the day I die. I’m fucking livid.

          Maga has done the hard work and organized. We aren’t entitled to rule with no leadership.

    • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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      Genocide is a redline for me, though I understand why to many Harris voters the mass slaughter of people halfway across the world is a non-issue.

      Edit: “If you were able to overlook a genocide and cast a vote for Harris, you already know how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism and vote for him.” – Historian Robin D.G. Kelley

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        Of course it’s a fucking issue! Do you think it will be better now that Netanyahu got the person be wanted in the white house?! My god how short sighted are you!

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        Well thank God you stopped that regular genocide from happening from a first term president who we can leverage public support against if she wanted a second term… And instead transformed it into a much faster and crueler genocide by a second term fascist who openly said we will never vote again and who wants to deport 25million Latinos out of this country (also a genocide fyi).

        You guys really helped out those people in Gaza, sure thing. Look at how much you achieved. Next you’ll vote for mass gas chambers instead of individual lethal injection because you’re against the death penalty.

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        Your stance strikes me as performative. As everyone’s lives are getting harder, including the people you claim to be prioritizing, that’s okay because at least your hands are clean. That’s the most important thing to you, that everyone knows you personally are pure.

        The majority of the blame lays with the DNC, the GOP, and those that voted for Trump. But you will also share a portion of the blame, even if you deny and refuse to take responsibility for it, we all lay it on your shoulders anyways.

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        Why on earth do you think Trump is going to result in the slaughter of fewer of those people?

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          I don’t so I didn’t vote for him. But I wasn’t going to vote for the party that enabled the past 400 days of genocide and then sent Bill Clinton to explain to voters in Michigan how 40,000 dead Palestinians is not enough, either.

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            It would have been amazing if you had an option of a third outcome, but the reality is you didn’t. Life is full of situations where you have to pick between things that are both distasteful. But the trolley problem illustrates that opting out to avoid it is not an option at much as you try to convince yourself that it is.