So much fearmongering. I’m new to Lemmy, and it seems to me that the Kamala campaign has infected Lemmy as well, just like they have Reddit. Looks like I’m not safe from leftist echochambers even after switching to Lemmy.
If supporting Kamala is your definition of a leftist echochamber you clearly haven’t browsed Lemmy much
What are you on about lol.
Leftists on lemmygrad and hexbear don’t support Kamala. You’re on lemmy.world tho so I don’t blame you for not knowing.
How many lemmies are there? Could you please teach me how to use this place… or places??? Idk.
There are a lot of Lemmy instances (or lemmies) out there. I don’t even know how many my self 😅.
Each instances are characterized by their set of rules and moderation styles. You can see them through join-lemmy.org/instances as well as their description. To see a user’s instance, just look at the domain after their username and the @.
Usually each instances can decide if they want to be able to interact with users and communities from a certain instance. That’s called being federated.
Sometimes tho they don’t think an instance’s userbase or community follows their rules, so they can decide to cut all interactions with them. That’s called being defederated.
The instance you are on, lemmy.world, is ironically, very US centered, and is the most popular instance. It’s defederated from hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, so you will never see posts from them on lemmy.world unless it’s a screenshot or something.
Since I’m on lemmy.ml tho, I can see posts from lemmy.world, hexbear and lemmygrad.
The benifit of this is that each instance can curate their experience how they see fit. If you think a moderator is being too trigger-happy on an instance, or you don’t agree on how lenient they are (or whatever other reason), you can migrate to another instance. So let’s say you want to go to lemmy.ml (which I highly doubt you would, but just an example), you go into your account settings, export your data, create your lemmy.ml account and import it. Currently it doesn’t support importing comments, but the devs are working on it.
I’m not the best at explaining things, but I’m sure [email protected] could help.
Thanks. You did an amazing job at explaining it. I understand it better :)
I use lemmyverse.net for finding communities
They left out one other important thing - like how you can see and interpret with users on other instances, each instance also has its own communities, and the community names are also @ whichever server hosts them. For example, there are multiple politics communities.
And groups hosting a Lemmy instances range from the Lemmy devs to a bunch of tankies to instances like the one I’m from, which is run by a group called SDF that’s been around since the 80s and had its start as a dialup anime BBS.
Hell, a large portion of us outside of grad and hexbear don’t exactly like Harris. Sure is a helluva lot better than a bald faced fascist though.
What exactly were you expecting when you shifted to the Reddit alternative whose main developers were communist? You’re either clueless or a bot.
If you read my comment, I said I’m new here. That is my first ever comment here. How was I supposed to know that the website was being ran by tankies? I’ve jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I can’t escape far leftists. And they want to put a communist and a known warmonger in office. We’re so cooked.
Asking as a non US citizen: why do you believe Trump is better than Kamala? Just objectively curious.
It’s not Trump that I believe in. It’s RFK Jr. But since RFK Jr joined forces with Trump, a vote for Trump is a vote for RFK Jr. Any genuine RFK Jr supporter knows that.
How was I supposed to know that the website was being ran by tankies?
Um, tankies? I don’t think that means what you think it means.
A tankie is another name for a communist.
That’s simply not true, but by happenstance the particular communists in question are tankies.
First, A lot of the far-left authoritarian users are in other instances, like lemmy.ml. Those communities are easy to avoid and users from there easily identified.
Second, I can only guess you’re talking about Harris when speaking “a communist and a known war monger”. Speaking as a former libertarian Republican (who left the party when Trump took over), Harris isn’t communist or far left. That’s 100% right-wing propaganda. America’s Democratic party is pretty conservative compared to liberal and leftist parties in Europe and isn’t that much to the left of the pre-Trump Republican party.
As for the known warmonger, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Lmao if Kamala was a communist more people on Lemmy.ml would’ve voted for her.
Evidently clueless in more way than one. No worries botski
Np. I can see that Kamala’s army of astroturfers from their discord server have already dealt with my comment.
Lol what? What discord server? You may find that even discord is slightly looked down upon here.
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Um, what?
You aren’t welcome here. Bounce on back to Reddit.
Cry harder. I’m not going anywhere.
tankie
🤨 I’ve never heard a right-winger, or even a liberal use that term.
Good for you I guess…?
In their defence why would you expect them to know about the political stance of the devs?
Honestly, I think they’re a troll account. In general Lemmy took a bit more effort for me personally to sign up to vs Reddit, I had to figure out an instance and roughly how it worked before signing up and the political stance of the devs came up. I mostly assumed most people went through a similar process.
Fearmongering? The republican presidential candidate talked about using the national guard / military on “radical leftists”/“the enemy within”. If that’s not a threat/fascism, what is?
Source?
Here ya go bud.
I understand wanting out of echo chambers but this has been everywhere for awhile.
I’ll do more research on this.
You don’t need to research.
Its the core theme of Trumpie during election promotion events.
Yes, I do. The media has a reputation of taking things Trump says out of context to the point where you’d have to go look for raw interview footage to confirm for yourself.
Do you like cram the night before a test as well? I’ve been watching his interviews and rallies intently up till now, I don’t understand this desire to procrastinate homework while talking like you did the assignment.
That’s what I’ve been asking the magabrainz in my life when they object to the f-word. I ask them if this doesn’t count as fascism, what would count, in their view?
So far, no cogent responses. All emoting.
The civil servant job thing is an insurance plan disguised as job security. It would enable Trump to fill the bureaucracy with loyal stooges who will keep doing his bidding during the next administration - like his House cronies did when he told them not to pass the bipartisan border security bill so he could use the border as his main campaign issue.
His appointees from the last go round are already still fucking things up. If you’ve tried to interact with the legal system or any regulatory agency, there basically is none. For everything from DHS to FOIA, the government is and has not functioning in many southern states.
ITT: small, shithole country thinks it’s elections matter even slightly to the rest of the world.
Chomsky was right when he properly pointed out that Republicans are the biggest threat to the world.
Donnie is merely a symptom. No Republicans ever should be allowed to hold any office.
I would argue that the Republicans are a symptom as well, the whole USA democratic structure will only enable a 2-party system. The whole systemic structure is rotten.
it’s an extinction level event for a lot of things. we’re already out of time on so many important issues. every living creature on this earth should consider him a threat. we are in self defense mode, or at least we should be. sadly, most of you don’t seem to understand how dire the situation really is.
but whatever. stick your head back in the sand i guess.
What exactly are you going to do about it? Seriously list out the specific measures you’re taking.
Are you ready to take the fight to the streets? Because that’s likely what it’ll come down to. Voting won’t save you. The constitution is only a flimsy piece of paper. Start organizing now.
Well start by voting. Vote local, vote often and make your voice heard. Then maybe try to reduce your carbon footprint. You really need a cultural shift for this to be effective. Yes yes I know businesses are the major polluters so I revert back to sentence one, vote, and continue to try to shift the culture to a more renewable one
Ok, I vote in every single election, including every primary. I drive seldom, use public transportation often, eat meat only twice a week, and encourage other people to adopt socially and environmentally forward beliefs.
Do you really think this is enough? I don’t, but there is only so much one person can do.
I think he’s a symptom of a much larger disease. The people behind him, the evangelicals, non college educated whites, the climate change deniers, the industrialists who fight every regulation, the behind closed doors racists. These are the democracy extinction harbingers.
Or it could be regular family people that are sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO. Or the fact that the inflation during this administration has American choosing food or medicine. Or the fact that during this administration housing has become only a dream. Or the facts that the current administration opened the boarder to bring cheap labor to replace us. Yeah great current administration!
You can do all that stuff and still not support a racist asshole
sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.
This misconception needs to be corrected.
The tax dollars go to America’s milliary industrial complex. It’s their surplus (which is already budgeted and paid for by the American government) that is sent overseas. No tax dollars leave the USA.
“Israel has also historically been permitted to use a portion of its FMF aid to buy equipment from Israeli defense firms—a benefit not granted to other recipients of U.S. military aid”
Good point. Although one could argue that Israeli defence firms are part of the US military industrial complex.
Forgot money grows on trees! Its still spending our tax dollars thats what I said. I got a crazy idea how about putting that into education or infrastructure. The american people are getting taken advantage any way you try and paint it. Israel has free healthcare and education and they are not part of NATO. They can fund their own genocide!
I don’t disagree, but the Military Industrial Complex is enabled and funded by both the Republicans and the Democrats. Nothing will stop your tax dollars flowing to it.
Or it could be regular family people that are sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.
I thought republicans didn’t even like NATO, what’s the butthurt about this?
Or the fact that the inflation during this administration has American choosing food or medicine.
We had to choose that long before this administration. The primary source of inflation is corporate greed and the top 0.1% demanding more from the rest of us, while paying less themselves, a position they only get away with because of conservatives.
Or the fact that during this administration housing has become only a dream.
Because there are no penalties or dis-incentives for corporations not to buy up all the land and houses. Every time we try to impose such rules, it gets shot down by republicans.
Or the facts that the current administration opened the boarder to bring cheap labor to replace us.
Border. Also, the implied violence and expulsion against undocumented workers is what enables employers to pay them such a cheap wage and enforce abysmal working conditions on them. The correct solution is to provide an easy path for work visas, and heavily penalize companies for hiring undocumented workers. You’ll never guess who is against doing that though…
Your comment is peak “stick in bicycle” meme.
Im not a republican!
Food prices inflated during the current administration, food was super affordable. What did Biden do to try and control inflation? Nothing could care less.
Again housing was affordable during the trump administration its not affordable anymore and if the dems win housing will just continue to be un affordable. Its been 4 years and they have done nothing!
They opened the boarder to replace you open your eyes man. No body does anything out of the kindness of their hearts.
You voting for this current mess is the bicycle meme lol
Im not a republican!
Press ‘X’ to doubt.
Food prices inflated during the current administration, food was super affordable. What did Biden do to try and control inflation? Nothing could care less.
Which grocery company does Biden run where he can decide to reduce the prices?
Again housing was affordable during the trump administration its not affordable anymore and if the dems win housing will just continue to be un affordable. Its been 4 years and they have done nothing!
As someone who had to look for housing 3 times during Trump’s administration: no, it wasn’t affordable.
They opened the boarder to replace you open your eyes man.
Who is “They”?
No body does anything out of the kindness of their hearts.
No shit. Is that why you are voting for the orange fascist?
Then dont assume right and whats the point of assuming? I correct you and you still doubt it lol ok I see why you want to vote for “Them”.
Which grocery store does trump own cause he had way better prices.
But you found a home now its unaffordable 80% increase in the last 4 years. Thanks Biden you the best!
They are them!
Im voting for my interest not against it!
Who is “They” again?
Grocery prices were “good” during the end of the trump admin because grocery purchases were waaaay down during the global pandemic. Are you saying you’d prefer a global pandemic to paying hiked up prices for eggs?
I actually bought my first home this year, whaddya know.
Shhhh. Some folks are reading the article.
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Trump was already president and it was the best 4 years for Americans. Everything started to suck when Biden became president and Trump warned us that this would happen. Prices for everything inflated homes are only for huge corps to purchase yeah great great administration. They were better under trump and thats a fact. I’m not looking to make history with a women president I’m looking to make money for my future self and family.
The ‘everything started to suck’ came with COVID, not with a presidential administration. To the extent that inflation and everything ultimately got away from us, that started mostly under Trump’s watch, but even then I don’t think I can blame Trump for the bad economy stuff, except maybe the degree to which he escalated trade war with China, but Biden has been happy to continue it. I don’t see Trump or the GOP willing to go against those huge corps for the sake of the common man, generally I see quite the opposite.
We cant tell the future, Im going by the past and what I experienced during the Trump administration.
In the kind of world you’re trying to usher in, your money isn’t going to save you.
They have you believing that trump will be like a putin. This isn’t Russia!
Who is “they”? I’m coming to my own conclusions.
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Are you completely sure ? Why is Elmo endorsing Trump? Aint he a big corp fraternity member? Has he still paid the pledge members who signed it?
This take is so incredibly bad I’m almost thinking that you’re a troll. “Everything was good under Trump 😊” -> “Everything was bad under Biden 😡” therefore Trump good, Biden bad is probably the most juvenile and pathetic logical fallacy that persists in our shared political thought. I’m not sure if you remember, but there was a little thing called COVID that happened which shocked supply lines, trade, took a huge toll on our collective mental health, and created an economic crisis. Acting like Biden caused that is so ridiculous, I have a hard time believing that even you believe that.
You could argue that Biden handled the recovery poorly (and I don’t think that’s a bad argument), but then you’d have to compare it with how Trump would have handled such a recovery – something we really don’t know. Given his contempt for the working class it is doubtful it would be any better, and there was plenty of room for it to be actively worse.
Im going by past experience and the Trump administration was better for the American people. Shit sucks right now and it will continue this way with the current administration.
Medicine? You mean like those handled by Obamacare which Trump wants to get rid of? From my understanding that was a huge change (here in Australia we have Medicare which is life changing and similar)
Also, if you’re getting replaced by people from another country (who have a huge disadvantage), I’d argue maybe you need to work on improving yourself.
That being said, she’s also increasing the minimum wage and taxing the rich more (whilst reducing tax for middle class and poor). So even minimum wage people are hugely better off.
Trumps bs has caused issues internationally, even here in Australia. I don’t think you realise how much he is fucking things up for normal people worldwide
Worry about Australia don’t worry about a country you cant vote on or live in.
If Trump wins, I’d be happy to have political refugees from the US personally
And it actually affects us too. All Trump’s shitty racism, bigotry, anti vaccine agenda is being reinforced worldwide because he’s an idiot. And he’s showing our absolutely crap political parties what they can get away with (and they’re using him as an example).
For our military, don’t forget, he’s giving away confidential military secrets too (I have a friend in the military, and he is putting her at risk).
This is bigger than the US. It doesn’t affect me as much, but i also have friends in the US
Also I’m fairly sure I could get a job in the US and residency if i wanted
I’ve been saying for a while, George W. Bush is the one who took the door off its hinges and sold it, Trump is just the inevitable crackhead who walked in and started living in the kitchen.
I would literally prefer a steaming pile of shit as president than Trump.
It’s really not. Just fear mongering to turn out the base.
What weight do his own words have in this situation? Talking about his rhetoric in general (e.g. ebemy within, send the army to deal with some ppl, dictator from day one, don’t need to vote anymore, etc.)
Right? They keep saying that he’ll turn the US into Nazi Germany or whatever democrat staffers are telling them to spam around the internet from their discord server. Why didn’t he do that in 2016? Astroturfers all over the place. That’s the Kamala campaign for you though.
Discord server?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/
Failed numerous fact checks. Do you have a more reputable source you can cite?
Only the media illiterate will let an external source make decision for them. You didn’t even examine the article to see what you’re dealing with. You only rushed to check if it aligned with your political views. Here. This one aligns with you politically, and it’s reporting on the same story. Are you happy now?
Just because someone failed to rob a bank doesn’t mean they aren’t a bank robber.
Sure, bud.
Even Dems agree Trump will likely pull out of Ukraine. Trump seems like his battle with China will be over tariffs, and less military-focused than the Dem Sinophobia. Though of course, Trump will also continue writing a blank check to Israel.
That’s two less escalation fronts with nuclear armed superpowers under Trump. The Dems are measurably closer to an extinction level threat.
But realistically we need to topple both capitalist parties to save humanity.
Remember to keep your heads buried in the sand! Look away from the horrors! Nothing to see here!!
The real horrors have not happened yet.
EDIT: I have blocked you. Don’t waste your energy
How to let everyone know you’ve tuned out genocide.
Voting for Harris is useful for ending the genocide because she wants a ceasefire. Trump want’s Israel to finish what it started.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
Would you believe I was trying to stop a mass shooter, if I was in the middle of helping them reload and purchasing more ammo?
Kamala is running for president not Biden, so your argument poses a false equivalence.
I made these pictures because I don’t think that arguments like “Trump is a threat to democracy” are something his supporters agree with. Maybe people could share these things in groups they know in these last couple days before the election.
Their goto response to things like this is, “Even the devil can quote scripture - nice try, Satan.”
Really? Because I recall the first woman hung in Salem for witchcraft was hung because being unable to say the Lord’s prayer in english(she spoke gaelic) means you’re a witch.
I wonder which one is canonically correct? Can the devil say bible words or not? Or is it specifically the lords prayer? Because if that’s it then we can prove we ARENT the devil.
I hate religious rhetoric so much. My brain hurts now trying to make it make sense.
The same two parties have been cycling in power for a decade and you are now voting between a fascist and a genocide supporter. Democracy already doesn’t exist in USA
Interesting. Which candidate is supporting genocide, and which way are they supporting it?
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In fact both parties are fascists and supporting a genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
I guess we’ll have to consider other factors, then. Like which one is promising to be a dictator, Blood Libeling Haitians, and promising to deport millions.
Open and read links posted and consider what you want.
Oh, I have already considered. I want the one that is not all but promising to industrial genocide immigrants (what do you think mass deportation is?), guaranteeing women lose more rights, guaranteeing LGBT people lose more rights.
BoTh SiDeS
On this particular issue: yes
On other issues: not as much
Yes both sides are supporting a genocide and both sides engage in fascist practices
Please explain how the Democrats are the fascists here?
The US government (the red and blue party who have been cycled in power for a century) engage and has a long history of engaging in fascist practices. Such as sending billions in aid or selling weapons to far-right governments (israel) or dictatorship (saudi arabia), the creation of a dystopian mass surveillance system capable of peeping at the average person at any give time, or the historical involvement in false flag operations like the bombing of piazza fontana.
Wow you must think pretty much every first world nation is fascist then. It takes more than what you’re saying to be fascist. Far right governments existed before fascism , and while America is far from progressive, it’s not really fascist either.
Well you’re going to end up with one of the two so you can either pick the shinier of the two turds or you can vote to kill yourself. Or you can abstain and by doing so also vote to kill yourself.
If we had a better option we’d be on it. We don’t. This isn’t a complex issue. Trump will destroy America, destroy America’s economy and future, and destroy Palestine completely. Harris will give us more of the status quo. This isn’t even a decision. We can worry about the next steps after we’ve defused the bomb ticking away in front of us. There is no other argument that can be made.
If we had a better option we’d be on it. We don’t.
Plenty of options that you are not even considering because you are victim of propaganda. Bombs don’t tick watch the combat footage videos from ukraine or gaza.
I’ve seen this same disinformation multiple times so I keep posting the refutation. Kamala wants a ceasefire.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715
She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.
March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas
July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315
Biden is complicit in genocide, but people in his administration have spoken out.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/us-government-employees-gaza-policy-statement/index.html
Trump wants Israel to finish their genocide.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
Democrats want a ceasefire. Republicans want genocide. Despite attempts to conflate these two positions they could not be more different.
Do not let anyone tell you we have two fascists parties. We have a neoliberal party and a fascist party. The neoliberal party is terrible on this issue, but they do not want the genocide to continue. The Palestinians, along with everyone else, will be harmed by a second Trump term. Voting for Kamala is harm reduction. If you care about anyone please vote for Harris and Walz because doing so is useful for ending the genocide.
Democrats want a ceasefire. Republicans want genocide. Despite attempts to conflate these two positions they could not be more different. Do not let anyone tell you we have two fascists parties. We have a neoliberal party and a fascist party. The neoliberal party is terrible on this issue, but they do not want the genocide to continue. The Palestinians, along with everyone else, will be harmed by a second Trump term. Voting for Kamala is harm reduction. If you care about anyone please vote for Harris and Walz because doing so is useful for ending the genocide.
Harris is not some random democrat party member she’s the vice president of the current Biden administration. She’s the second highest person in charge in the country, trying to pull her out from what the government is doing is a big stretch. You are claiming in the same post Biden to be complicit in a genocide and the democrats to want a ceasefire, stop being illogical.
Both parties are fine with the genocide going on and with israel fascist government finishing the job, this is not what i’m telling you it’s what is happening live right now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
The vice president doesn’t have the power you argument asserts she does.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-is-the-constitutional-role-of-the-vice-president
stop being illogical.
Stop ignoring evidence that refutes your argument’s central point.
I’d argue here that right next to Trump, it is the electoral college. But, as Americans can’t do anything to change their electoral system, they are probably already owned. If it isn’t Trump, it will be another Trump-like candidate, whether Republican or Democrat.
If American democracy elects Trump, then your version of it has already failed.
The fact he’s a consideration for the presidency again means we’re already broken beyond repair, he’d just be the tombstone.
We’ll have fascists shoot Americans in the street and fully protected by the law (and not just the cops who do it) before we ever have a candidate who can give us Universal Healthcare and a better minimum wage.
A wake up call to fix the Democracy was in 2000, and we did nothing. We all ignored our complaints when 9/11 happened, and then did nothing when Trump won in 2016.
A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy worldwide, not just in United States. Considering that Trump and his supporters promise an isolationist policy, all sorts of predatory authoritarian and totalitarian regimes will suddenly feel like they can do anything - and this will start happening all over the world.
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Just curious as a non US citizen: why do you believe Trump is better than Kamala? Just objectively curious.
I don’t think they believe that at all. My guess is that they feel the opposite way.
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Nope.
Yup.
Didn’t matter last time, won’t matter this time.
American democracy, anyways.
If only democracy was a thing in many, many other countries across the globe.
Oh well - don’t let us down, America.
