If only Americans didn’t hate LGBT and minorities so much they might be actually be able to progress instead of continuing the American tradition of two steps forward one step back.
If only Americans didn’t hate LGBT and minorities so much they might be actually be able to progress instead of continuing the American tradition of two steps forward one step back.
Cool. Now do reproductive rights, Ukraine, climate change, student debt, Supreme Court appointments, trans rights or whatever other part of Project 2025 you want to throw a dart at.
Not only is there more than one issue at play here, we know explicitly that the issue you’re pretending to care about exclusively will get worse if Trump wins as well. Both Trump and Netanyahu have said that pretty much openly.
So yeah, you, disingenuous, detached from reality, are being disingenuous, detached from reality and it’s really, REALLY not playing well anymore.
The mental gymnastics these people go through to be able to stay at home on the couch instead of going to vote or filling out a mail in ballot are staggering. They’ll say anything in order to do nothing.
Pretty sure the goal isn’t doing nothing, but discouraging others from doing anything. Assuming a goal is in place at all.
Have you considered political activities besides just voting? Like I’m a anarchist and I still plan to vote, I’m just gonna vote for the communists because they actually oppose the genocide and continue my normal organizing activities.
So you’re not voting with extra steps.
They’re not going to vote at all.
Excuse me for engaging with the political system, you guys act like a cult
Oh, no, you’re excused. Absolutely engage with the system outside of elections as much as you can. I thank you for your civil service.
But for all that is still decent in the world, go vote for a democrat every chance you get while you’re doing that. If you’re spoiling your vote AND advocating falsehoods about the political positions of the only non-fascist party running with any chance of winning, then you’re doing the exact opposite of helping, you are a hostile actor furthering the cause of fascism through either malice or negligence. And frankly, this deep into this thing I do not care much about the difference.
There’s plenty of Democrats running even at the local level at least around me who are just low key Republicans, it’s just more politically convenient to pose as a progressive than run as a frothing at the mouth Republican. The reason I push back is because I see people like that who are unworthy of my support
Do they vote along party lines? Hell, do they vote along party lines more often than not?
Because I genuinely don’t care about anything else at this point. I’ll take a “low key Republican” supportive of democracy with a even vaguely acceptable voting record over an online communist campaigning for Trump. Any day.
Let me put it on extremely online bougie-commie terms: what you’re doing here? In the context of a surging fascist party? That’s class treason.
I’m voting for PSL, there’s also plenty of political work to be done the other 364 days of the year.
Without ranked choice voting or something like that, how much say in governance do any third party have in America?
As I understand it’s practically zero.
You’d have to look at individual cases, plus define what third party is.
So by all means work to build a political base in your community that better supports your preferences, but consider reality when voting at the national level. We need your vote to push back fascism, racism, hatred and corruption
They’re electable if you vote for them
You’re just a dictator apologist IMO. Just check out that persons posts lol.
Salty
A shame you can’t discuss with a fellow trans without having to ban them when you’re wrong (such a low energy power trip, we are not on Reddit lol). You were literally saying Russia and Iran was preferable to live in for a trans compared to the USA. What a delusionnal person you are, if you are just not straight up a Russian troll, no one can be that brainwashed. Travel a bit and get over your hate, there are lots of good things out there you just have to dare take the first step. The first step away from hate.
Bye.
You got banned for accusing other trans people of “not really being trans” and being a chauvinist more broadly.
You just thought I was against trans people because I was against your stupid ideas lol!
Bye bye!
It was because of the transphobia, trans people are perfectly capable of acting transphobic
Reproductive rights: Democrats could have put roe into law, they didn’t
Ukraine: another war you’re supporting
Climate change: Biden regime sanctioning cheap chinese solar panels, ramping up LNG production (as bad as coal, shocker), they act like they care then brag about how they drill more than republicans
Student debt: Both sides are unironically dogshit, academia needs to be nationalized
Supreme court: It’s actually executive malpractice that Joe Biden didn’t stack the court and instead let reproductive rights, Chevron, etc just get run through in the name of ‘respecting the institution’
I said this elsewhere but:
democrats have made it clear that anyone who is politically inconvenient can be exterminated without it reflecting poorly on them because “the other guys could be worse”
I have zero confidence that trans people wouldn’t be next as soon as we’re politically inconvenient.
maybe try reading the news?
So all of that is complete nonsense, but let’s entertain it for a moment.
What are Trump’s policies on each of those issues and why are they not worse? Can’t help but notice that you’re all “dems bad”, but there’s very litttle “Trump not worse” anywhere in that post.
Your absurd worldview depends on such an aggressive, delusional misread of reality it feels weird to even engage with it. We’re talking flat earther, Westboro Baptist Church levels of not being sure whether I’m just not getting the joke or the person honestly believes what they’re saying. You’re trying to sell “not doing as much as possible if reality was no object” as an equivalent to the actual, genuine nazis. It was nonsense when people tried to do that between the liberal dems and the neocons, but between surprisingly-progressive Biden and actual-nazi Trump? The cognitive dissonance is face-melting.
For the record
Yes, I do support Ukraine, speaking of disingenuous, detached from reality nonsense. If you’re just going to be a Putin shill you can just do that openly and save us the boring online argument. The Dems lost the House very shortly after the overturning of Roe, and they did codify it at the state level immediately after where they had the power to do so. Ironically, not voting blue no matter what in the midterms is why there isn’t a federal Roe replacement. No, the Dems’ policy on climate change isn’t the same as Trump’s, by a long shot. I don’t even know what to point at on that one, Trump is out there saying wind power is exterminating birds and that toilets don’t flush while Biden presides over the biggest leap in solar generation in history. You’re moving the goalposts for any action on education to full nationalization, which is extreme even for progressive public education systems in other places, and definitely not the bar for “same as Trump” in a world where Republicans are straight-up banning books on ideological grounds. Stacking the court is a risky move that could cost the election, but more importantly, it’s actually a worse long-term solution than the proposed reforms Biden currently has on the table. Stacking the court is temporary, term limits are a permanent solution. Again, that is easier to get through if Rs think Harris will get a couple of appointments, so it’s key to elect her, regardless of anything else. And you are imagining a threat against trans people from dems that not only hasn’t existed, but runs counter to every policy they’ve presented in the real world so far. Oh, and don’t think I haven’t noticed how you don’t seem as preoccupied with focusing on Gaza once Trump’s and Netanyahu’s alignment is mentioned.
So because I wasn’t making all my jokes about Trump’s impromptu ear piercing on a public platform I must be a Putin shill, got it
No, it was the comment about support for Ukraine being “another war you’re supporting”. That’s where the Putin shill comment is coming from.
Not seeing the Trump policy review to go along with your dem claims, though. You only reacted to one throwaway comment on a postscript I spoilerboxed specifically to keep the focus on the point. Your finger must have slipped, instead of just not having a valid argument to equate a fascist movement with increasingly left-leaning liberals.
I’m literally out doing organizing, I’m only gonna have time for clapbacks srry.
Okay, so shut up online about discouraging dem voters and go organize.
If you have time to post “both sides are evil” crap you have time to defend your fallacious arguments. If you are too busy being a real world activist, go do that and let people scrape another four years of democracy out of a flawed system.
I’m just talking about how I’m voting for PSL because I find arming an open genocide to be crossing the line of sometime I can support.
Nah, you’re not “just” anything. And if you are, you’re too oblivious to hold any political opinion worth considering.
But hey, speaking of things you haven’t addressed, how about that Trump/Netanyahu alignment you immediately avoided acknowledging earlier? Wanna go back and review all the ways your talking points aren’t playing at all? Because a second ago you were too busy being an activist.
You sound like a Putin shill when you’re advocating to end support for Ukraine, which, in case you need reminding, didn’t invade itself.
I’m opposed to all wars, they should negotiate before more people die needlessly.
You do realize you can’t negotiate with a lot of people, right? Putin has made it clear, over his political career, he sees Russia reclaiming all the land the USSR lost, as the only true desire he has at the end of the day. He is a psychopathic murderer. Not in some abstract way, like hands-on murdering your rivals, experience. The only negotiation Putin is interested in is “give me your country, or I will bleed Russia dry killing you”. Abkhazia, and Crimea, were Putin testing the waters. When the global community showed they didn’t give a shit, he invaded Ukraine, full tilt. He thought it would bee a few days because he seemed to truly believe the rest of the world would let him do it. If we had, he would now be invading Georgia.
Even if Putin were to agree to stop, in exchange for what they have taken already, it would just create a period for Russia to actually prepare for a war with NATO, before doing it again. You are naive.
There’s been plenty of diplomatic off ramps, I was really frustrated at the time when Boris Johnson intervened in the Istanbul talks to derail things with promises of unlimited support. There could have been a diplomatic solution years ago, but it was considered “worth it” to “grind down” Russia.
You’re way off base to make it out like Putin’s just one psycho puppeteering everyone. There’s plenty of people there who view NATO as a threat and are more than vocal that Putin hasn’t gone far enough. Plenty of Russians have nuanced opinions and are in no more of a position to vote for an end to the war than I am here.
Yeah, I am not saying NATO are the good guys. There are no good guys, never were. However Saying Boris torpedoed the negotiation is ignoring the issues that culminated just before Zelensky pulled-out.
Russia, while saying they could agree to a join guarantorship, stayed vague about exactly the letter of what responsibility that NATO would have, that they would be willing to accept. They rejected several rebalancings of this guarantorship, ones in which gave them progressively more control, signaling to Ukraine they weren’t truly on board with the idea at all. This was a sticking point for Ukraine to stay neutral, that neither Russia, nor NATO, had over-ruling control of the other’s responsibilities. They were clearly not in alignment with the idea. Then the reports of the Bucha massacre came to light. This angered Zelensky, enraged the Ukrainian public, and deeply damaged the deal. Then Russia backed-off of Kyiv. This showed that Russia wasn’t just easily walking through Ukraine any longer.
So Russia’s coolness to the guarantorship with NATO, the Bucha massacre, while Russia also had to pull back for the first time, all came to a head and Ukraine refused the agreement.
And yes, Putin is a psycho. Not the raving lunatic caricature type, the cold, calculated, killer type. He is indisputably responsible performing, and ordering, assassinations of his political rivals. He has little empathy, and has no qualms with killing people who challenge, or publicly humiliate, him. Also torture people just to make a point about optics. Putin has been saying he wants, and intends, to reclaim the Russian empire held by the USSR. He personally believe that the loss of that empire was the worst socioeconomic disaster in history, and the only way to fix it is to expand again. Ignoring this as a driving factor in Russia’s behavior is naive. Putin has Russia, to get more there needs to be expansion. Yes, of course, he is concerned about NATO. NATO is a more powerful, more wealthy, military presence, next door, that doesn’t agree with him on a lot of things. Has NATO done horrible shit to Russia, and previously the USSR? Yes. Is Russia guilty of a lot of horrible shit its self? Also yes. When I look at places like Russia and China, and hear their pleas of NATO being big bad, and they just want to exist peacefully, alone, with totally no expansionist desires, I have to laugh. I laugh at claims from NATO powers of victimization when attacked by places the west has been fucking up for decades, or centuries. China is doing a whole lot of the “empire of economy” stuff that the US has been doing. So excuse me if I feel that they would doing literally every imperialistic behavior the US does, if it weren’t for the US having an overwhelming infrastructure, for moving military power around, that really puts other major powers at a disadvantage.