If only Americans didn’t hate LGBT and minorities so much they might be actually be able to progress instead of continuing the American tradition of two steps forward one step back.

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    The mental gymnastics these people go through to be able to stay at home on the couch instead of going to vote or filling out a mail in ballot are staggering. They’ll say anything in order to do nothing.

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      Pretty sure the goal isn’t doing nothing, but discouraging others from doing anything. Assuming a goal is in place at all.

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        Have you considered political activities besides just voting? Like I’m a anarchist and I still plan to vote, I’m just gonna vote for the communists because they actually oppose the genocide and continue my normal organizing activities.

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              Oh, no, you’re excused. Absolutely engage with the system outside of elections as much as you can. I thank you for your civil service.

              But for all that is still decent in the world, go vote for a democrat every chance you get while you’re doing that. If you’re spoiling your vote AND advocating falsehoods about the political positions of the only non-fascist party running with any chance of winning, then you’re doing the exact opposite of helping, you are a hostile actor furthering the cause of fascism through either malice or negligence. And frankly, this deep into this thing I do not care much about the difference.

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                There’s plenty of Democrats running even at the local level at least around me who are just low key Republicans, it’s just more politically convenient to pose as a progressive than run as a frothing at the mouth Republican. The reason I push back is because I see people like that who are unworthy of my support

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                  Do they vote along party lines? Hell, do they vote along party lines more often than not?

                  Because I genuinely don’t care about anything else at this point. I’ll take a “low key Republican” supportive of democracy with a even vaguely acceptable voting record over an online communist campaigning for Trump. Any day.

                  Let me put it on extremely online bougie-commie terms: what you’re doing here? In the context of a surging fascist party? That’s class treason.

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                    Actually, engaging with the electoral system and not voting for the communist running for government is the class traitor activity

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      I’m voting for PSL, there’s also plenty of political work to be done the other 364 days of the year.

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        Without ranked choice voting or something like that, how much say in governance do any third party have in America?

        As I understand it’s practically zero.

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          You’d have to look at individual cases, plus define what third party is.

          • For example, Bernie Sanders is “Independent” and influential at the national level: does that count as third party?
          • For more strictly third party membership, you almost never see them at national level but you do at state and local

          So by all means work to build a political base in your community that better supports your preferences, but consider reality when voting at the national level. We need your vote to push back fascism, racism, hatred and corruption

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        You’re just a dictator apologist IMO. Just check out that persons posts lol.

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            A shame you can’t discuss with a fellow trans without having to ban them when you’re wrong (such a low energy power trip, we are not on Reddit lol). You were literally saying Russia and Iran was preferable to live in for a trans compared to the USA. What a delusionnal person you are, if you are just not straight up a Russian troll, no one can be that brainwashed. Travel a bit and get over your hate, there are lots of good things out there you just have to dare take the first step. The first step away from hate.

            Bye.

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              You got banned for accusing other trans people of “not really being trans” and being a chauvinist more broadly.

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                You just thought I was against trans people because I was against your stupid ideas lol!

                Bye bye!

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                    I’m not going to debate you here, even if you can’t ban me on this instance. You had your chance on lemmy.ml but rage banned me lol. Hate is gonna hate I guess. Such a shame.

                    To all trans loving gorgeous people out there, don’t fall for the hate 💙🤍💖 !