Thiel said liberalism and democracy are "exhausted," and said, "We have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window."
  • someguy3@lemmy.world
    53·
    3 months ago

    I’m at a loss for words. This idiot surely knows exactly how far right nationalism worked out, but is eager to try again.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      46·
      3 months ago

      The crazy part is that Thiel has somehow deluded himself that he, a homosexual man, won’t be put up against the wall himself if the fascists and theocrats take over and his usefulness runs its course.

      • Hegar@fedia.io
        201·
        3 months ago

        It would be so sweet to see Peter Thiel before a firing squad with his assets seized and nationalized by the same brutal and incompetent hate-machine that he helped birth. I wonder if his last request would be one last hit from his blood boy.

        It would be sweeter still if none of that comes to pass, of course.

      • Mirshe@lemmy.world
        11·
        3 months ago

        He’s rich. He knows he can just hop his private jet and be gone to, like, Portugal or something within a couple hours if things get too spicy here.

        • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
          5·
          3 months ago

          He bought New Zealand citizenship, along with a bunch of these other billionare weirdos.

          Undoubtedly he has a fully stocked bunker out there for when he rips the US apart.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        It’s been proven time and time again that if you’re wealthy and powerful, or at least close to power, you don’t face the same judgments the common people face in authoritarian governments. Look at Lindsay Graham, almost definitely gay but the republicans leave him alone despite their public campaign against LGBTQ people’s rights.

    • Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca
      11·
      3 months ago

      But it did work out for the people who bankrolled the NAZI party. Sure the party came to a horrible end but the richest men in germany secured their power and legacy.

          • dactylotheca@suppo.fiEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            Yup, a lot of Nazis were “washed clean” and kept their positions of power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persilschein

            Persilschein is a German idiom and literally means “Persil ticket” (“Persil” refers to a brand of laundry detergent). To own or have a Persilschein is akin to having “a clean bill of health” and may refer to the granting of a wide-ranging permission or “carte blanche” to pursue a business or a previously morally or legally suspect interest.

            Denazification certificates

            The term Persilschein dates back to the denazification period in Germany. For a German to be given a Persilschein meant to be given a certificate that they had a clean political past. Suspected Nazi offenders could be exonerated by statements from others, ideally victims or former enemies of the Nazi regime, and thus accepted as having a good reputation.

            Colloquially the affected person was said to be “washed clean” of accusations of Nazi sympathies; “cleanliness” in this context meaning “innocent”. They were attested as having a so-called “white vest” (innocence) and were now allowed to apply for a house or open a business again. During 1948, the interest of the Americans in systematic denazification waned markedly as the Cold War and the threat from the Soviet bloc hove increasingly into view. Faster processes were introduced to bring denazification to a swift conclusion, however, that led to questionable judgements.

      • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        I don’t know IBM really seems to be hurting these days. Not for any punishment from their involvement with the nazis. But you know.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    38·
    3 months ago

    “I don’t think we’re ever in a cyclical world but there are certainly certain parallels in the U.S. in the 2020s to Germany in the 1920s,” Thiel said. “Liberalism is exhausted, one suspects that democracy, whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window.”

    The Overton window means the range of views or opinions considered politically acceptable at a given time.

    Fascist. Billionaire fascist, so he’s actually all of our (in USA) problem.

  • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    33·
    3 months ago

    If we can say that wearing black to a protest, and then just walking on the sidewalk, means a felony because we all know what is implied in it

    Then can we start to say also that “one suspects that democracy, whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window” means you need to be investigated for seditious conspiracy? I am not completely joking about that.

  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
    27·
    3 months ago

    If you ever wondered what you’d do if you were around in the early 1930s, now you can make a pretty good guess. Lots of people talk a big game about shooting Hitler or Goebbels or whoever before they got to power, but murder is hard. Thiel will probably never get anything approaching what he deserves.

  • John Richard@lemmy.world
    61·
    3 months ago

    This guy is so miserable and disappointed in himself. Why can’t he take it out on himself like a normal person.