• Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    But immigration <> birth rate. Within 1 or 2 generations those new people will also not want to have kids since they won’t be able to afford anything either.

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      5 months ago

      Call me when the global birth rate is falling. Until then it’s a local problem.

      And when the global birth rate is flattening I will throw a fucking party because we can finally start thinking about global sustainability.

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        5 months ago

        The global birth rate is falling. It’s still quite above the replacement rate, but it is not as high as it used to be; it has fallen.

        This comment makes no value judgement.

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        5 months ago

        Call me when the global birth rate is falling.

        I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of the phone ringing.
        UN Data shows the Fertility Rate falling from ~2.7 Births per Woman in 2000 to ~2.3 Births per Woman in 2024. Here is a handy chart of the data from 1960 to 2021. Global birth rates have been falling for most of the 20th and 21st centuries. Barring a major shift in demographics, the world’s population should peak this century. That isn’t a terrible thing, and probably a good thing from a climate perspective. But, it will have economic consequences which we will need to deal with (aging populations, economic stagnation, shrinking workforces, shrinking economies). None of this has to be a problem, but those types of demographic changes can cause societal instability.

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          5 months ago

          Don’t be sorry, it’s the best news I’ve heard all decade!

          The maddening thing is that you know the economic consequences would be easier to deal with a bit of solidarity, but we’re not going to.