• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Pausing weapons shipments had nothing to do with murder in Palestine; it was because they attacked Iraq and we liked Iraq back then. Reagan, of all people, was just as supportive of the slaughter of brown people in Palestine as he was of it in many other places. And even besides the reasons why he might have been briefly upset with Israel for non-Palestine reasons, he didn’t place sanctions any Israelis, he didn’t meet pointedly with Begin’s political opponents, and he sure as shit didn’t land the US military in Palestine.

    So he was willing to cut off Israel and they weren’t even committing genocide at the time? Why is Biden sticking with them when they are?

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      8 months ago

      I notice we’ve fully moved away from the question of “am I open to criticism of Biden” without comment, and smoothly transitioned to disagreeing on some other topic without acknowledging the abandonment of the first topic. That’s another common propaganda tactic; by clever selection of what parts of the message someone responds to or not, they’re able to transition to a new topic without ever having acknowledged that now that we’ve analyzed the question a little, they were clearly completely fucking wrong about the original topic of discussion. This can be done any number of times, for any number of arguments that don’t really hold up when challenged, in order to continue a hostile exchange that doesn’t really go anywhere but still creates an overall impression of factual parity between the two viewpoints.

      I regret to inform you that I’ve got a bingo now, so we’ll have to close it here. I feel pretty comfortable with what I’ve laid out as far as Biden’s record vs. Reagan’s and all that, but if you don’t feel the same way, I think you’re gonna have to cope with that feeling all on your own.

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        I notice we’ve fully moved away from the question of “am I open to criticism of Biden” without comment, and smoothly transitioned to disagreeing on some other topic without acknowledging the abandonment of the first topic.

        Throw enough distractions at me and then act like I distracted you. Neat DARVO.