• bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    What does a 2 state solution mean? It means the Palestinian people weren’t genocided.

    Do you not get that? Because if you don’t, this situation is clearly more complex than you ever begun to realize.

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      8 months ago

      What does a 2 state solution mean?

      In this context, about as much as anything else Biden says he supports and doesn’t back up with actions.

      Do you not get that?

      I get what Biden’s stated position is. His actions say the opposite.

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        8 months ago

        Which specific actions?

        Aiding an ally in time of war as per the treaties while working towards a ceasefire and two state solution?

        Not only do you guys want Biden to be a war time president, but you specifically want him to wage war against Israel, and then you guys get offended when its pointed that the only people in the world this would benefit is Russia and Qatar/Iran.

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          8 months ago

          Which specific actions?

          Biden is selling Netanyahu weapons that he knows will be used for genocide.

          Biden’s administration is propping up Netanyahu at the UN.

          Those specific actions.

          Aiding an ally in time of war as per the treaties while working towards a ceasefire and two state solution?

          No treaty requires Biden to circumvent congress to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide. No treaty requires Biden to run interference for Netanyahu at the UN. Biden’s words regarding ceasefire and a 2 state solution are only words.

          Not only do you guys want Biden to be a war time president, but you specifically want him to wage war against Israel,

          You’re just making up ridiculous shit now.

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            8 months ago

            So, what do you guys want then? Long term, he stops selling to Israel, what next?

            Qatar and Iran decide now that Israel has been cut off from the US, they decide to come calling on their promises to destroy Israel.

            Do you support Israel then? Do you support Biden selling weapons again?

            Does Hamas go back to attacking Israel? What exactly are your long term goals here?

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              8 months ago

              Israel can easily take care of themselves without the US being an accessory to Netanyahu’s genocide.

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                  8 months ago

                  I’m not sure why you’re bothering to ask, since you’re going to ignore whatever I say and make up some wild shit as my position instead. Again.

                  I favor a two state solution in which both Israel and Palestine are recognized by the UN.

                  Now that you have asked your leading question, you’re going to pretend that the only way to get to a two state solution is to continue US support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

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                    8 months ago

                    I am not a Netanyahu supporter. I in fact support another dissolution of the current coalition government on day one of the end of the war. I am open to him and his cabinet being investigated and tried, just as I think should have happened to Bush and Cheney.

                    But at the end of the day Hamas started a war and took hostages into the city of Gaza so that Gaza itself would be the battle scenes.

                    They refuse to hand over the hostages, nor take the fighting outside the city. Qatar and Egypt’s support of the war is stipulated on fighting not extending into their borders.

                    I also support a two state solution, but it requires the full dismantling of the Hamas government, tribunals, a temporary government administered by a neutral third party (good luck talking the Swiss into getting involved here), etc.

                    This situation is bad, but claims that the US is engaging in genocide are patently false and might as well be official Qatari/Yemen/Iranian propaganda, it has that large a lack of depth of understanding the geopolitical situation actually happening.