• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      It’s weird, because they think the military is on their side, but they’re going to delay them getting paid and they already delayed a ton of promotions. I don’t think those officers, or anyone else who needs the pay, will forget that. The question is if they’ll place the blame on the right people.

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        The weird part of it is they’re doing it in an election year. They passed those temporary spending bills specifically so they could appear to be keeping the government running into 2024, but they’re gonna dig their heels in now?

        Sounds like a recipe for getting clobbered in an election year, and I’m here for it.

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          You would think. But then you would think Trump wouldn’t even poll remotely close to Biden just based on his past performance too. So I have no idea if this will be bad for them or not.

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            It’s bad for them. Republicans are always blamed for government shutdowns because they make a big kerfuffle about their symbolic stance against Big Government expenditures. Republicans generally agree with the symbolism, excepting the part where many of them don’t get paid.

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          The gop feels confident they can just say it’s the Democrats ’ fault, and their voters will accept it. That seem more accurate than ever.

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            Exactly. Republicans are working hard to ensure a border crisis and an economic downturn. Money isn’t being sent to Ukraine workers here are making good money making equipment and ammunition that will be sent there. Republicans, and Putin, don’t want that so they are blocking the aid package.

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            I’m almost certain they will, but they’ll have to ignore much more reality than they have in the past to do it, such as Biden saying he’d sign the bill that had everything they wanted. It won’t be as easy to pin this on Democrats when it’s been made clear long in advance that it’s the GOP holding things up.

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          They have constantly capitulated to extremists in their party. If even a single Republican wants to shut something down now they do since…reasons? Appearance of party unity means more than anything to them.

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            I think the reason is because that’s all they have left. They don’t have a platform, and they know culture war bullshit doesn’t sell, except in specific areas of the country.

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          If they get their base riled up and enough Democrats stay home because Biden can’t be bothered to pressure Israel on the low low bar of not committing genocide…

          They only need to win by one.

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      It’s not even that nefarious.

      It’s an election year. “The Democrats caused the government shutdown because they wouldn’t agree to let us shoot every non-white person invading the US at the border!” will be the GOP talking point.

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        This plan likely won’t work because their party is far from united right now. All it takes is for a few people on their side to call this unreasonable and their excuse falls apart.

        My reasoning for this is that it’s exactly what happened with the recent proposed immigration bill. They killed it despite their party negotiating it. So what are their fundamentalists left to think? Did they negotiate it poorly? Are they incompetent? Did Mike Johnson block a good bill? Seems like any excuse they can give insults the party and highlights division.

        Same thing here. If they can’t manage a unified message, it’ll be obvious what’s happening.

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    Plans. They’re planning to shut down the government. Call it a plan you cowards. Words matter.