Rights advocates in the United States are urging President Joe Biden to end his administration’s “complicity” in Israeli rights abuses after key members of Israel’s government backed the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza.

Far-right Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich said this week that Israel should “encourage emigration” from the coastal enclave, home to an estimated 2.3 million Palestinians.

“If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after [the war ends] will be totally different,” Smotrich said on Sunday, calling for the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians.

A day later, Ben-Gvir, who oversees national security, made a similar appeal, saying it was “a correct, just, moral and humane solution”, Israeli media outlets reported.

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    You’re not dumb.

    Wow, you’ve already doubled the number of things you’ve been right about! At this rate we’ll only have to keep arguing a couple months more until you stop being an insincere moron!

    You know that people disagree with you on the atrocities you claim.

    I know that some people deny objective reality, yes, but that doesn’t make objective reality any less real or any more subjective.

    it’s impossible to have an apartheid system against another country.

    Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs living in Israel and Israel-occupied and/or -controlled Palestine are treated as, at best, second class citizens. Desmond Tutu agreed that Israel is an Apartheid state and he of all people should know.

    It’s hilarious to me that you’ll try to bring up the definitions of words after that

    I guess the truth sometimes looks like hilarious comedy to those who believe in ridiculous gaslighting such as that coming from Times of Israel, AIPAC and Faux News 🤷

    your opinion is so extreme.

    Yeah, it’s SO extreme to think that the lives of Palestinians matter! Such an audacious notion! 🙄

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      Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs living in Israel and Israel-occupied and/or -controlled Palestine are treated as, at best, second class citizens

      You went to all the effort to cite Tutu and yet provide no evidence for this, because they’re not, and they literally have representation in Israel’s government.

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        they literally have representation in Israel’s government.

        Yeah, because everyone knows that having 1/12 of the knesset be Arabs means that there’s not systemic inequality and oppression of Arabs and other minority groups! 🤦

        provide no evidence

        here’s some evidence you’re gonna ignore or pretend to refute.

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          Yeah, because everyone knows that having 1/12 of the knesset be Arabs means that there’s not systemic inequality and oppression of Arabs and other minority groups

          It’s proportionate to their population.

          About 6.8 million Jewish Israelis and 6.8 million Palestinians live today between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River, an area encompassing Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory

          This article is about the Palestinian territory, a different country than Israel.

          Lol they literally acknowledge it.

          The intensity of that discrimination varies according to different rules established by the Israeli government in Israel, on the one hand, and different parts of the OPT,

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            It’s proportionate to their population.

            No. As pointed out in the article you just pretended to have read, the Jewish and Palestine populations of the territories controlled by Israel are roughly equal.

            This article is about the Palestinian territory, a different country than Israel.

            “between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River, an area encompassing Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT)”.

            It’s right in the opening sentence of the fucking summary the report starts with ffs! 🤦

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              Gaza is not in Israel lol. It’s an occupied territory, not part of their country. Hamas runs Gaza as the official government.

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                Gaza is de facto controlled by Israel and as such is their responsibility.

                Even if Hamas wasn’t a terrorist organization first, a political advocacy group second and a government as a WAY distant third, they still wouldn’t be able to properly take care of the people of Gaza, given the inhumane conditions created and enforced by Israel.

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                  Gaza is de facto controlled by Israel and as such is their responsibility

                  Both of these statements are false. Not “I disagree.” They are false and they would offend the fuck out of Gazans.

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                    They control the food supply, the water supply, the power supply, the fuel supply, the medicine supply and the international aid supply.

                    That means that they’re in control and it’s in no way offensive towards Gazans to acknowledge that.