And to think he could have been saved if those guards had washed their hands before beating him.
The fucked up part is that barely a decade after his death - thanks to the efforts of Louis Pasteur - Semmelweis’s work went from so controversial they condemned him to his death, to becoming the basis for the field of aseptics
Florence Nightingale made some important public contributions here as well
I know that effect!
“That’s the Florence Nightingale effect. It happens in hospitals when nurses fall in love with their patients.”
But what was George doing in that tree?
Never suggest common sense to people who are raised in ignorance. Too much of a new idea will always be a huge threat to them, though nobody knows why.
If Semmelweis’ s theories were correct, it would have meant that many deaths of their patients would have been easily avoidable. So those other doctors could either ridicule the theory and continue living + practicing in ignorance, or accept the theory and also accept that they had (unknowingly) caused the deaths of many of their patients.
I’m not surprised that they chose the route of ridicule. I’m also not surprised that 20 or 30 years later, when the assistants of the old doctors had become the new generation of doctors, that the theory was then more easily accepted.
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IT’s the Dunning-Kruger effect - people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria. And they tend to only value the criteria that validate their own points of view. What we really lack is the eagerness to know all sides of an issue and take them into account.
Dude just needed a better PR team.
“By the lords blessing washing your hands in holy water and soap allows Christ to deliver the baby”
People would’ve seen the decrease in mortality and he could’ve gotten a selfie with the pope.
But then he’d given The Imaginary Man undeserved credit, and who knows where medicine would be today? so I think it was all for the best
Yeaaa religion set humanity back far enough as is, we need to attribute as little as possible to it
Imagine if Jesus Christ himself was just a benevolent charlatan that tried to codify a good standard of conduct for all his followers (and was then sadly overinterpreted and used for the occasional hate-speech)
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Semmelweis was also kind of an asshole and would camp out by hospital sinks and yell at staffers for not washing their hands. He had the right idea, but he also had a shit personality which definitely contributed to the “everyone hated him” thing.
It also wasn’t soap and water handwashing. He had them wash in chlorinated lime, which did turn out to be effective in killing germs but also wasn’t the most pleasant stuff to be constantly putting your hands in.
What I’m wondering is why the midwives for some reason had cleaner hands hand the male doctors?
The doctors at the hospital where this happened were also doing autopsies and would often go directly from an autopsie to the delivery ward without washing their hands.
The midwives did not perform autopsies.
It was not that the midwives’ hands were especially clean, it was that the Dr’s hands were very contaminated.
I think once when this was posted they said doctors would see other patients and even perform autopsies then do surgeries with no hand washing between.
They weren’t dealing with other sick people I imagine. Also I bet they tended spend more time with each patient since they only did one specialist task.
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I have no idea what you are on about, but yes I am genuinely wondering
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You’re an ass, go away
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There was nothing rhetorical about the question. He asked a question. Rhetorical doesn’t mean anything about getting to the point quickly. It means a question that doesn’t need an answer.
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And his question wasn’t beating around the bush. He literally just asked a question. It wasn’t rhetorical. Just because you say it’s rhetorical doesn’t make it rhetorical. Rhetorical.
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What the actual fuck is your problem? Completely insufferable.
I can’t wait to see what future generations will remark “I can’t believe they lived in a world without that knowledge” about our time.
Plastic
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Is this real and accurate?
Title gore…
Not really, they just forgot a word. Should be “what do you mean…”
“What do you mean things are so small that we can’t see them with the human eye?”
What do you mean “things so small we can’t see them with the human eye?”
I’ll fix the typo once Jerboa is working again. Seems to be the only app I can use to edit a post with.
Huh. I thought that was the big difference from Reddit, you could edit posts. I guess it’s only post text not titles…
So far I think it depends on the app. I mostly use Sync which I suspect looks at Lemmy from a Reddit functionality point of view. As I recall you can’t edit post titles so I suspect the app doesn’t even include the option or it’s a paid feature.
When I use Jerboa there’s more options like editing post titles, and seeing the various up and down vote counts plus the total for posts/comments. In Sync it’s just the total of the upvotes/downvotes. I’m sure there’s more differences but these are the big ones I’ve seen so far.
Interesting. Maybe I’ll have to give Jerboa another look. Hoping we’ll have more choices in both mature apps and features down the road…
Jerboa has been upgraded since the summer. There was some stuff with swipe navigation which was an issue for my use case but I think that’s been changed along with many other things now. It should be my daily driver now over Sync but muscle memory so far is keeping it from not being yet.
That’s definitely
nottrue apparently.What app do you use that allows you to edit?
Sync.
Same here but no option to edit a post.
*edit only comments it seems
Like Nietschze; I mean the official theory ist that he contracted syfilis as a young man and therefore later in his life ended up in an insane asylum; which of course was fathomable and apparently happend a lot in the end of the 19th century. I for myself kinda choose to stick to the theory that he just couldn’t take the world view he created for himself anymore and the ignorance of the vast majority, so that he also had something like a ‘nervous breakdown’ that landed him in such a place. But well, I guess that’s just trivia or the ramblings of another mad man… 😜cheers
It is a pretty confident bet that mental illness is caused by mental illness not philosophy
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Semmelweis’s hypothesis is testable. None of what you mentioned is.
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Give us your experimental designs to verify or falsify all the things you listed:
Afterlife
Reincarnation
A creator of the universe
Little people
Spirits
I personally believe none of it but show me how it can be proven using the scientific method.
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Environments suggesting an afterlife may be encountered via certain meditation techniques.
What is your control group for this?
Does people not experiencing this while mediating prove it does not exist. (I have been practising meditation for 20 years and have no indication of this)
Interviews with children who recall past lives suggests reincarnation.
Do interviews with children who do not recall pass lives invalidate this?
Something fitting description of a “creator of the universe” may be encountered via certain meditation techniques.
What is your control group for this?
Does people not experiencing this while mediating prove it does not exist. (I have been practising meditation for 20 years and have no indication of this)
Little people. Hmm. You got me there. But the literature is filled with reports.
Literature is filled with shit people made up, it proves nothing scientifically.
And of course, these methods unavoidably esoteric and depthy.
Exactly, none of what you wrote is based on the scientific method.
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Observation is not looking at something and drawing a conclusion. It is noticing something, looking into that something, and then designing a controlled environment to test your observations to see whether you observed correctly.
I can’t look at an apple for the first time and tell you whether or not it is ripe. I would first need to know what an apple should look like when it’s ripe based on what I find, and then make sure that an apple is ripe when it is in a certain condition.
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