• areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz
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    Rednecks were originally left wing pro-union workers originally. So these people don’t deserve to be called rednecks.

    Edit: had to double check. There were multiple meanings including the coal miners I am referring to. Apparently it could also mean white sun burned farmers in the 19th century

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      Rednecks are farmers given that name from having their heads down while plowing their fields. They were Klan back in the day and are right wing extremists now. These people deserve much worse than being called a derogatory name.

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        From the Wikipedia article on rednecks:

        Coal miners

        The term “redneck” in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandanas for solidarity. The sense of “a union man” dates at least to the 1910s and was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.[18] It was also used by union strikers to describe poor white strikebreakers.[19]

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          I like how you glossed over the entire first part of the article to try to prove me wrong lmao. Clown.

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            Did you even read my earlier correction? I said the term has had multiple meanings. The coal miners were in the 20th century, the farmer rednecks were earlier in the 19th century.

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                Nah I edited it because I did more research. The original source I had was from a leftist tiktoker who left out the original meaning of the term. It turns out if you search for videos like this you can find more than one talking about the redneck revolt.

                That being said I find it bizarre you can’t deal with the concept that a word has multiple meanings.

                Edit: Also why are you trying to say stuff like “Take the L”. The whole point of discussing these things is to learn or to inform, turning it into a competition is wrong and leads to bad faith behavior and antagonism for no reason.

                I found a misleading source of information that I should have verified ahead of time. I find it hard to believe you wouldn’t make the same mistake.

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                  You tried to make it sound like I was incorrect. You read the whole article but chose to leave out the first section where I was right and then thought I wouldn’t go look at the Wikipedia article myself. Then you edited your comment to save face after I posted the first part of the article. You were trying to be manipulative but you failed hence the “take the L”. Now be gone.

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                    No, I tried to point out that it has multiple meanings, you tried to say it has only one meaning in your attempt at a correction. This is indeed incorrect and I was right to point this out. This is presumably because you didn’t know anything about the coal miners or the redneck revolt and didn’t want to be caught out as ignorant.

                    I also haven’t read the whole article, because I don’t live in America and it’s not that important to me right now. I have read enough to know the information I was given was incomplete, and I have updated my statement and my views based upon the information I now have.

                    You’re accusing me of manipulation based on zero evidence. The only person being manipulative here is you.