• palal@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    2008-2016.

    Guess who was in power in 2005? That’s right, the DPP.

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      And? Taiwanese voted for their government so… China had no choice? I don’t buy the helpless China argument for a second. They did it because they wanted to, because they say they own Taiwan. They chose it, as they chose to fire missiles around Taiwan in a childish outburst and as they choose to claim they will use force to take Taiwan if necessary. Nobody is making them do these things. They are wrong and they are completely the choice of the CCP. I really don’t see where this argument can possibly lead except to permit all countries to commit all atrocities they feel they have the right to.

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        I’m saying that the DPP is primarily responsible for destabilizing cross-Strait relations. I’m really not sure why you’re arguing with this: it’s the same reasoning used to justify the attempts to overthrow Castro in Cuba as well as the actual coups of multiple South American countries. They became ideologically unaligned with a global superpower and had to go. Geopolitics has not tangibly changed since then, except for China supplanting the ex-USSR as the “big bad” in the West.

        The fact that there’s been no KMT coup, despite KMT officials basically controlling the entire military, is a testament to the restraint of all parties.

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          And I’m saying, that’s bullshit. There’s only one country claiming they own the other and shooting missiles at it. That’s where you should be looking to see who’s primarily responsible for ‘destabising cross straight relations’ as you so clinically put it.

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            1 year ago

            Have you… Read the official KMT policy?

            Taiwan is not the DPP and the DPP is not Taiwan. The fact that everyone in the West seems to think this is the case is a product of the hundreds of thousands of dollars in “speaker fees” to US politicians and influential people visiting Taiwan.

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              1 year ago

              Not addressing the point because you know it’s indefensible. Don’t care what everyone in the west may or may not think, I live in Taiwan.

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                1 year ago

                KMT policy is literally that they are represent the government of all of the Chinese territories. Come on, man.

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                  And why do you think that is? Do you seriously think anyone in Taiwan is that deluded they believe they can ever take back China? The CCP have been very clear that as soon as Taiwan revokes that claim they will be invaded. They have a gun to their head. Come on yourself, this is frankly an embarrassing take.

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                    The DPP has literally already asserted this claim. You cannot allow the US to conduct FONOPS through the Taiwan Strait without declaring independence because under UNCLOS, if Taiwan was Chinese then the Taiwan Strait would be territorial waters.

                    Where’s the invasion?