• Sybil@lemmy.world
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          she’s not the guest of honor. she’s just a RT contributor who got invited and paid her own way. this isn’t the OWN that Rachel maddow thinks it is.

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            She’s literally sitting at the same table as Vladimir Putin. You think that have open seating at these events? Fucking Gorbachev was at that dinner and wasn’t even at that table. And yes, this all took place after Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014.

            If you’re gonna advocate for Stein you’re going to have to come up with something a little bit more convincing.

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                There’s a very easy way to not end up sitting a dinner table with murderous dictator war criminals and traitors: don’t go to dinner with them in the first place.

                This isn’t exactly rocket science.

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                    Yes, in fact I do. Are you suggesting she was somehow tricked into attending a Russian propaganda event?

                    Try harder.

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        Are you fucking stupid or just full on tankie? What she said is the equivalent to when someone starts a statement with “I’m not racist but…”

        She says it was a mild response? A response to what? What forced Russia to invade? Did Ukraine start pointing nukes at Russia? Fuck no. That was Russian apologist propaganda.

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          you’re robbing it of context. she’s talking about Western foreign policy.

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            Oh. Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. The west made Russia invade Ukraine. They had to do it. Because of the west. Fucking idiot. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

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              you’re constructing a straw man. that’s not what I said. that’s not what she said.

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                She literally said they only invaded because they had a gun to their head and the response was relatively moderate. You said she is talking about western foreign policy. I built no straw man. You both just said that shit. No one pointed shit at Russia. Russia didn’t like the new government in Ukraine. Took over crimea. Trump was in office so the response was meh. So then Putin went for round 2. And she said it was in response to being threatened. And was a moderate response.

                Why don’t you take your tankie ass to Ukraine and see the moderate response first hand.

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                    You’re correct. I conflated that time period. Obama pushed for and got sanctions against Russia. Then Trump said it was ok that Russia annexed crimea, undermined the sanctions, and removed talk of Ukraine sovereignty from the party platform.

                    My bad.

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                    I really have to stop arguing political theory with little kids. It’s bad for my blood pressure.

                    But just one more thing, how does anarchy protect minority groups from mob rule? How do you keep a smooth talking fascist from implementing a populist fascist movement? What does protection even mean in the context of anarchy? Or did you just watch batman too much and decided the joker was really cool?

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          Are you fucking stupid or just full on tankie?

          false dichotomy: I’m an educated anti fascist.

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            I mean you apparently can’t read one full tweet from a Russian asset, so why don’t we just hold off on that educated claim. Wouldn’t want you to get in trouble for false advertising.

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        Her: “Yeah, weed is illegal, but everyone does it, it should be legal, it has great health benefits, I take it daily.”

        You: “She’s against weed. She said weed is illegal.”