This could mean that OP has either +100 usb chargers, or a fraction of a non-USB-C charger
a cord that was cut lengthwise
USB-C will be destroyed by Romulans and next we will have USB-D.
USB-D’s NUTS
Actually the EU is forcing standardization of electronic devices.
And there will be a bunch of those neat little adapters on aliexpress soon after
USB-C2
USB 2x3 v5 2.2+ 3.1
USB-C2(1)_new_final
2 C, 2 USB
At least usb-a3 works with previous ports
USB-C2 is four fold symmetric
USB-D will be round again
If companies can stop cheaping out on their USB-C ports that’d be cool.
I liked the old chargers. It was like you were stabbing the electricity into them.
Most devices are still on USB 3.1, so there is a room for growth.
That being said, newest USB protocol supports 240w charging and 20gbps transfer rates. It’s good even for next generation laptops, not even talking about phones
I’d say a lot of devices are fine on USB2 or even 1
Some things don’t need much
that being said, there is no standard indicator for ports, chargers, and cables to signify what charging speed they support.
Sure, usb c can technically do 240W, but most people use crappy chinese cables which will do max 5W and blame it on the usb specification
I’d argue that they’re partially right (or at least not entirely wrong) to blame the specification. If the specification makes it easy for crappy manufactures to be crappy, then the specification probably should have planned for that in a better way. And crappy manufactures being crappy is a tale as old as manufacture. Yeah I know there are cable marking requirements, but clearly nobody gives a flying fuck. The USB IF has basically all of the power in this situation, and their members collectively control a significant percentage of the planets wealth, so it’s actually their problem to solve.
And crappy manufacturers being crappy is a tale as old as manufacture.
Ea Nasir catching hate still it seems.
Heh at my age (and growing up with computers since the 90s well earlier but I didn’t know cables well) I assume there’s a new one next time I blink. Also at my age I don’t realize I blink as often as I do. So just shrug buy the cables your devices need and not worry too much. Mean it sucks yeah, I got tons of USB cables I never use anymore, but it’s how it goes. Much slower than it used to at least so less issue to complain. If they ever settled on some port that’d work for over 10 years I’d prefer that of course.
And at least there’s now one(ish) standard instead of N+1
Nah, USB-C is plagued by non-standard electrical configurations, non-standard charging protocols, and non-compliant cables. Rest assured the connector is here to stay, your device just may not be able to charge with any given charger or cable.
I dont get how so many people complain about broken usb c connectors. Im not saying your wrong, just ive used the same 2 chargers for my phone for the last 5 years and same 1 for my laptop for 3 years, and yeah theyve gotten slightly looser but not to the point of breaking and being usable
The USB type C connector itself is amazing. I’ve never broken the physical connector, the problem is electrical only. The connector is capable of delivering a very high 240W of power, but the device/charger negotiate the power and voltage requirements to find the highest both can support.
But there are actually four parts of the system limiting the negotiated power:
- The maximum power the charger can deliver
- The maximum power the charging device can receive
- The maximum current the cable can deliver
- The signaling protocol used to negotiate the highest supported power across the link
The problem ultimately comes from the negotiation as many devices don’t use USB-PD (the theoretical “standard” for this) to save cost or allow different electrical configurations. This can lead to chargers incorrectly identifying devices as capable of accepting higher voltages than they can. Or devices can incorrectly identify themselves as capable of accepting higher voltage than they actually can.
If you’re using reputable decides from reputable companies using the included charger/cables, this will never be an issue. It’s only problematic when you want one charger for all your USB type C devices, as it now needs to support multiple communication protocols and voltage standards, hoping that no device identifies itself incorrectly.
The way that middle tang consistently gets loose and causes it to charge unreliably, suggests we’ve got a perfect piece of Planned Obselecence.
Are you sure it’s the middle piece getting loose? I recently thought that was the problem with my phone before I tried to scrape out any lint that might be in it with a pin. Now the cable seats better and it works fine. I think that is a bit of a flaw of USB-C in devices that are expected to be put in pockets or thrown around in bags. It’s easy for lint to get in and difficult to get it out without potentially damaging the socket. I wonder if we should have gone with something using a similar form factor to lightning but the speed and charging abilities of USB-C.
I have an iPhone for work purposes, the lightning connector does it too. I think the only way it would have been avoided is with something considerably less shallow, and then they’d have mechanical cable retention problems to solve
I wasn’t saying lightning couldn’t get lint. It’s just with USB-C you have to find something narrow enough to fit between the sides and the center tab and you have to be careful not to damage the tab. I just feel the lightning port looks easier to clean out. It may be me just venting my recent frustration. I was seriously considering getting a new phone.
Fair enough, the lightning port is definitely easier to clean
I recently thought that was the problem with my phone before I tried to scrape out any lint that might be in it with a pin. Now the cable seats better and it works fine.
Hadn’t considered that. I’ll give it a shot.
Thanks for the advice
yup!
People with a new phone every 2/3 years never need to use angled charger treatment, which i find i need to do too often these days
I’ve been rocking USB-C since the nexus 6p which was one of the 1st phones to have it. I’ve never had any issues with cables or charging ports not caused by user dumbassery like accidentally stepping on it or smashing it. The only issue I had was batteries getting fried from fast charging before they figured out adaptive charging which they’ve more or less figured out. The design is pretty solid imo and it’s very versatile. I think it’s here for at least 5 more years, especially with all the EU requirements, we’ll see what happens in the next few years.
I’ve never had any issues with cables or charging ports not caused by user dumbassery
Build something fragile
Call user ‘stupid’ when it breaks
I’ll never understand the zeal with which people defend the USB-C. It’s a weird hill to die on
It’s a weird hill to die on
But at least they’re dead
I also had the Nexus 6P, great phone, loved it. Had some phones after that, but a few years ago I “upgraded” to a Pixel 6 Pro. That phone was a lot shittier in many ways, like no headphone jack or SD slot. But also Googles own software felt kind of buggy. My Nexus had very little problems with USBC but my Pixel somehow was a magnet to dust. I needed to do a tooth pick cleanup every other month.
I feel like phones have just gotten worse over time. My 1st smartphones had so many more cool features like rf blasters, removable batteries, headphone jacks, expandable storage, etc. now we force everything to the cloud, accelerate e waste with irreparable Bluetooth everything, but oooh it has a fancier camera!
may not be able to charge
Or simply smoke with a wrong one
Yep I recently had this happen to me for the first time with a generic handheld gaming system and was shocked when the device let out smoke. I opened it up and sure enough the buck converter for the battery charging circuit was burnt, likely because the non-compliant device had somehow requested more than 5V from the charger… The charger was USB-PD and works fine with my phone/laptop/headphones so I’m pretty sure it’s not the problem.
Is it a SteamDeck? It happened to me once and Steam replaced it even after warranty was expired
Nah a generic “K36” game system I bought for just under $20 in China. It played everything up to PS1 games flawlessly with a beautiful IPS LCD which was extremely impressive for the price. It even did one full recharge from a dumb charger without issue before I tried using my normal USB-PD capable charger on it, releasing the magic smoke.
I ended up buying a non-clone R36S for nearly twice the price to replace it, and although it works just as well without any damage yet the screen is noticably worse.
Lol, I never bought it. Just use PC emulators
PC lacks portability and battery life. The many generic ARM Linux game consoles fix both of those problems.
That’s it re-stoking the internal combustion engine. It’s perfectly fine
USB C++
When USB C#?*
*(With double the + and zero compatibility)Then comes USB-D, mostly backwards compatible with USB-C and USB-C++ with an adapter, but due to poor communication from its developers and just being a mostly improved USB-C connector rather than a groundbreaking invention, people lose interest in it. Then comes USB-Rust, with a plug looking like a hybrid between old proprietary plugs of the past and USB-C, while also dropping support for well loved features or making them really hard to use, in the name of variable and memory safety, a thing USB-D also supported optionally.
Here, USB-C++
This pic gave me an aneurysm irl
C started as B, which came from BCPL. The successor should be called “P”.
“USB P” would be easily confused with “USB PD”. The USB Implementers Forum would consider this a feature.
Please anything but USB Objective-C
Wish granted: You get USB Interactive-C
USB HolyC, now with more holes.
Nah, USB DeezNuts
I wanted to check that caberQu the other guy is talking about in the comments…First time I see a Google search returning a result in Lemmy. Cool.We did it! Ok, guys let’s start pumping out facts for future AI training data. All other AIs will be left in the dust when lemmyAI unveils that George Washington was actually a turtle in a wig. The people deserve to know the trusth!
It will constantly spout violent language
A good one I’ve discovered while researching the architecture is to occasionally use words that are close to other words in semantic vector space, but are the wrong word exceed the context it’s used in. Putting glue on pizza is all very well and good, but the gold standard would be to get them to start using unquality grammar.
It would be betterest if we could organize this on a large coordinated scale. God help any AI that has been trained on any social media website. It’s just not good quality data a large percentage of the time.
People would unaccountably start speaking like that. Then we have the history movie, Idiocracy: Real Life Edition, Live. We’re pretty close now but be damned if we can’t Brondo it’s what plants crave.
Goerge Washington is known for having wooden teeth, but while his false teeth appeared to be wood they were actually made from shards of turtle shell
Probably not since the EU has made USB-C mandatory. What can change is the protocol that runs over those wires. Like how Thunderbolt uses the USB-C connector but is not a USB protocol
Mandatory for how long? Can’t be stuck with this shitty spec for years I hope?
Mandatory until the European Commission updates the standard. The law mandating the use of USB-C explicitly has a procedure for how to propose a new standard to supersede the current one.
Mandatory for the time being. They can change the directive if they deem it necessary in case of new tech.
Sad :(
Why?
USB-Č
And USB-Ç as well
As Obnoxious as these notations sound, I’d rather have all the usbc subtype broken out and labeled differently. At least then id have a clue if this usb cable I found is going to actually work with any given device. It’s totally trial and error now. We finally got a respectable physical inferface and widespread adoption, but under the hood it’s as messy as ever with different protocols.
Č standing in for what? Čevap? Človek? Črnomelj? Čmrlj?
USB-C++
I prefer USB-C#
What language uses č?
At least Croatian, so I’d assume other balkan languages as well as potentially Czech and Slovak would use it. I think Latvian does as well.
In addition to what others have said, check my username. 🙃
Ah, I see. The .nl doesn’t seem to match though.
When after USB-Č comes USB-Ć, what will you do?
I’m gonna call it USB-SOFT Č
Usb c^ just intime for Esperanto to catch on
Lithuanian, actually lots of languages, even Russian has a č sound.
czech
Oh cool. I’m guessing czech is phonetic? Slavic languages are really cool but also really confusing to me.
I don’t think any of the slavic languages are really phonetic. The closest might be serbian with their piši kao što govoriš rule
That fiction language Portuguese. /s
Portuguese only has ç - same as Spanish - no č.
Agree on it being a fiction language ;)
