• BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
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    24 days ago

    Tourism is down? No shit!

    I’m in a situation where I might have to travel with a group of students, and big boss is dead set on the US. We’re talking overtime, plane tickets, car rental, hotel, and a per diem. But still I’m resigning before I’ll go to the US right now. If ICE or CBP sees 10% of the stuff I’ve said about TACO, and politics in general, online, I’d be lucky to just get shipped home.

  • Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 days ago

    No one wants to visit. ICE is even detaining white people from Canada and UK, no one is safe from this Trump crap.

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    23 days ago

    Well yeah. Anyone too chicken to come here and get shot would logically end up somewhere else. Vacation is a zero sum game. Money not spent here will still be spent elsewhere.

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    I’m not surprised. I live in Australia and always wanted to travel to the US. As time goes on the likelihood of travelling there seems more bleak.

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    25 days ago

    Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?

    It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.

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      25 days ago

      The reality is this:

      They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.

      As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.

      I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.

      The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.

      We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.

      We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.

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        Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our regime government.

        It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.

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          I guess because I’ve witnessed authoritarian takeovers of other countries this detail didn’t even phase me, we should have expected it. There are a large number of places in the world where you will get turned away or worse for your beliefs if you’re outspoken. Americans’ deluded belief broadly that we had “free speech” was always a crutch people would use to justify their hate but was rarely used for actual social change.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      25 days ago

      If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?

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      As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.

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        That’s the beauty of not having duo process, your rights and citizenship don’t matter at all Because you never get to the point to be able to prove it, you just disappear

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    24 days ago

    It’s only been a couple of months. For many people across Europe, visiting the US is quite a trip, these are easily planned a year in advance. Therefore, many still visit the US, because otherwise they might lose serious sums of money. I’m curious to see what next years figures will look like

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    You’re literally imprisoning tourists for the most minor shit, you silly dickheads. Of course that’s going to cost you money.

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    Gee, I wonder why? Perhaps xenophobia and open hostility towards foreigners isn’t good for the tourism industry? Who could have possibly foreseen this outcome? 🤔🙄

    I expect this trend to continue if the federal government moves forward with it’s plan to charge foreigners more money to visit national parks. One of the objectively best things about our country is our vast natural beauty protected by the federal government in perpetuity, and the national parks system is one of the few institutions that turns a profit every year and we still have the dumbass-in-chief trying to fuck that up too.

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    Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…

    Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…

    Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…

    Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy

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    The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting the United States. They’ve made travel by Americans, to American destinations questionable, based on ICE antics.

    Does America want a healthy tourism industry? Then they’d better get busy smashing fascism.

    As it stands, it is simply not advisable to travel to the United States.

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      25 days ago

      The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting in the United States.

      FTFY

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      I had that thought too, but it is true that in Canada for instance the USA border guard has recently gotten a nasty reputation for detaining canadians over nonsense. It is chilling to see how little they think of the good faith relationship people from those countries have long shared.