Democratic socialist politicians like Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib are right about the violence in Israel and Palestine: we should both be mourning civilian deaths and calling for an end to the Israeli occupation.
I like you acknowledge both wrongs, but you mustn’t have spent much time looking at post replies and comments if you think the people decrying the implicit supporters of Hamas are the problem.
I think the thing that’s putting an incredibly sour taste in a lot of people’s mouths is that anyone who decries the wanton slaughter and rape of innocent civilians by a terrorist group is absolutely bombarded with replies from blindly pro palestinian comments saying things like:
“Israel asked for this”
“Those people shouldn’t have been there if they didn’t want to get raped and killed”
“People have a right to self defense”
“Look at this map which doesn’t reflect the whole story of this conflict, implying that it’s justified”
“Freedom fighters fighting against oppression/apartheid/open air jail”
Paraphrased obviously but this is what it reads like. It’s hard not to see people posting that stuff whilst bodies are still warm on the ground instead of condemning the barbaric attacks as not implicitly supporting Hamas and the disgusting crimes they just committed. There is no “but” after decrying these attacks. They are unjustifiable and inexcusable.
Obviously Israel needs to stop creating settlements in the west bank, but bringing that up relentlessly like a bot farm of brain damaged propagandists doesn’t help the cause. It feels the same as Russian trolls claiming Ukraine is run by Nazis, or MAGA people taking about some laptop. Nothing gets taken seriously when it’s clearly a one sided megaphone style discussion.
Making it look like any pro palestinian discourse is actually just people supporting their preferred football team doesn’t help create dialogue and a future peace. You’re just creating an echo chamber which to less invested observers seems to be celebrating rape and murder of civilians.
I like you acknowledge both wrongs, but you mustn’t have spent much time looking at post replies and comments if you think the people decrying the implicit supporters of Hamas are the problem.
I think the thing that’s putting an incredibly sour taste in a lot of people’s mouths is that anyone who decries the wanton slaughter and rape of innocent civilians by a terrorist group is absolutely bombarded with replies from blindly pro palestinian comments saying things like:
“Israel asked for this”
“Those people shouldn’t have been there if they didn’t want to get raped and killed”
“People have a right to self defense”
“Look at this map which doesn’t reflect the whole story of this conflict, implying that it’s justified”
“Freedom fighters fighting against oppression/apartheid/open air jail”
Paraphrased obviously but this is what it reads like. It’s hard not to see people posting that stuff whilst bodies are still warm on the ground instead of condemning the barbaric attacks as not implicitly supporting Hamas and the disgusting crimes they just committed. There is no “but” after decrying these attacks. They are unjustifiable and inexcusable.
Obviously Israel needs to stop creating settlements in the west bank, but bringing that up relentlessly like a bot farm of brain damaged propagandists doesn’t help the cause. It feels the same as Russian trolls claiming Ukraine is run by Nazis, or MAGA people taking about some laptop. Nothing gets taken seriously when it’s clearly a one sided megaphone style discussion.
Making it look like any pro palestinian discourse is actually just people supporting their preferred football team doesn’t help create dialogue and a future peace. You’re just creating an echo chamber which to less invested observers seems to be celebrating rape and murder of civilians.