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    2 days ago

    I’d say there is overwhelming evidence that this is likely genocide, but we can’t say it is one until the ICJ finishes reviewing the mountain of evidence against Israel

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      50,000 died of a population of 2 million (many of them militants). 2.5%, while a tragic loss of life, does not compare with the Holocaust where one-third of the Jewish population worldwide, and two-thirds of European Jews, had been wiped out.

      If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.

      Many more lives will be lost by Hamas not surrendering but it is a sacrifice Tankies in the comfort of their Western homes are willing to make.

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        50,000 died of a population of 2 million

        No 50,000 direct deaths from Isreali munitions were able to be positively IDed. The actual number of deaths was estimated at a quarter million mid last yeah, and is probably at least twice that now, based on comments Trump made.

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          You think a quarter of Gazans have been killed? Yes I would call that Genocide but your figures are fantasy.

          As long as Hamas don’t give up though (which seems to be what this sub wants) we can maybe eventually get there but then it will be a joint effort by IDF, Hamas, Hezbollah, Qatar, Iran, ProPals.

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            A quarter of a million is more than the population of Gaza.

            No it isn’t. and if it was, then killing 50 thousand people would be killing an even larger percentage of the population than killing a quarter million…

            So that would be more than all the Arabs in Israel combined.

            No. It would be a quarter the population of Gaza. These are easily checked facts mate, not sure what you’re trying to prove by lying about them

            How is the war continuing if by your calculations IDF has already killed all Palestinians (including Palestinians who don’t even exist to make up your fantasy total).

            What exactly do you think the population of Gaza is?

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        2 days ago

        You need to read the definition of genocide. I highly recommend following that with the south African report to the ICJ

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          Gazan civilians are not being “targeted”. It is Hamas and Hezbollah who are intent on genocide. I mean they actual say it - why not believe them?

          If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but Cannot.

          Trump’s talk of “evicting” Gazans to Libya is disturbing. That would be ethnic cleansing.

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              Why do you think Israel didn’t wipe out the Gazan population already?

              Let me present to you for the third time…

              If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.