Economically dependent on their northern neighbor, business owners in Washington state are laying off employees and shutting their doors.

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    As a Canadian I feel bad for this. A lot of Americans in these tourist towns love Canadians and didn’t even vote for Trump!

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      As an American, I can hardly blame the Canadians. Who would want to cross the border when doing so might get you tossed into a dark hole in El Salvador for no reason whatsoever?

      It absolutely does suck for the Americans who rely on those tourist dollars, though, as well as the Canadians who lose a destination they love. I really hope we can restore sanity sooner rather than later, but I fear it would take an act of God to do so.

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      We need the pain. Just like you needed the pain from Trump to oust your far right, We need everybody, even the people in the deep blue states to say absolutely not to the entire right agenda, or shit here is never going to get better

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        We didn’t oust our far right. They got more votes than they’ve had in decades. They just got them in the wrong places.

        We also lost our left wing party whose votes got gobbled up by the centre-left Liberals.

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    Hey 'murican here, the other day I punched my friend in the face and started bragging about maybe taking their home from them with violent force and now they are ravaging our friendship by refusing to hang out with me.

    What can I do? Threaten my friend with more violence and intolerance?

    Thnx ahead of time for any advice.

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      It’s your friend’s fault, they are brainwashed by the woke trans globalist agenda and can’t understand you’re doing it for their own good. Keep draining the swamp and they will eventually see you were right all along!

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    It’s not even a boycott at this point, who in their right mind would cross the border and risk getting detained by an unshackled border control and ice.

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      Exactly, I wouldn’t visit America for the same reason I wouldn’t visit Afghanistan…it’s a dangerous country run by dangerous religious nut jobs.

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      I think many of us are shocked that the US has an army of ICE and CBP agents that were this ready to go full Gestapo. That suggests some alarming underlying issues.

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        many of us are shocked

        Yet you have been regularly informed that “some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses” since 1992.

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          Don’t know if that’s widespread knowledge outside of the US but it would be interesting if that was widely known within the US.

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          One can only wonder how many white nationalists gravitate towards those jobs, especially ICE agents.

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      Yup. Boycott is only part of it. The other part is that it’s not safe. ICE is out of control and has already sent Canadians to jail for zero reason.

      I’m planning a 15 hr drive next month that I’d normally do thru the US as it shaves a few hours off. But not this time. You literally couldn’t pay me to cross that border - I can’t risk getting shipped off to some concentration camp in El Salvidore because ICE doesn’t like my hybrid car, or whatever.

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      Nobody in their right mind, but people who want to experience one of the best and one of the worst Rainforest Cafes in the same day.

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      He will be fine though and likely dominate, he will kiss his fists and say meet mr calm and collected and all will be well

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        I don’t understand why so many Americans don’t get that. I hear, Canadians are upset at tariffs. I hear, Canadians are worried about border issues.

        Both are true.

        But that’s not why we’re enraged. It’s because an unhinged, racist, sexist, authoritarian, mentally challenged dictator has threatened to destroy our country and everyone there is doing fuck all about it.

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          everyone there is doing fuck all about it.

          i think it’s important not to downplay the protests… people are organising the most political action that’s happened in most people’s lifetimes

          but it’s by no means proportional to the situation

          and perhaps more importantly: there are still a huge number of people that are drinking the koolaid

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            The protests have proven to be irrelevant and ignored. Trump and his idiocy has been protested for a decade. He’s been convicted of crimes, he was declared by a court to be a rapist, when he speaks, he clearly has mush for brains, people close to him have called him a racist, he formented an insurrection. And yet here we are…

            Clearly holding up signs, even in large groups is doing fuck all.

            Thomas Jefferson had something to say about what the situation calls for.

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      Canada isn’t going to be friends with the US again for at least an entire generation. I can get to mainland Europe from Vancouver for roughly the same price as a US vacation because your prices are completely fucked too. 18 usd for a burger? Lmao I’ll go to Prague and have a goulash and two beers for that

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      Honestly? It might be too late. Even if we did those things, no one is coming back for decades. We just proved it’s not safe.

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    I can confirm Points Roberts is really losing out from this trade war. It’s a little tiny piece of the USA easy to get to from Vancouver but hard from mainland USA since you either have to take a boat or go through 2 international border controls.

    Point Roberts gets the water electricity and telephone from our lines, throws their trash in our landfills, gets most of their business from Canada, and have a bunch of shipping/forwarding services because the rates are often cheaper to a US address.

    Many Americans are great and I like them, but we’re boycotting because starting from the Republican regime and its supporters, a lot of people there have gotten too casual about how much they think they don’t need us so we’re reminding them at large of our value.

    I’m glad this Bloomberg article finally lists the many reasons that factor into this because for a few months the only reasons given were the tariffs and bad exchange rate. On its own, those haven’t stopped Canadians crossing to the US to this level in the past.

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      As an American, I do not take it personally that Canadians and other countries are boycotting the US. it’s understandable, appropriate even, and I’m fully supportive of it.

      The only thing I ask is that when the resistance comes that you find ways to support us, covertly if necessary, but public if able.

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        that you find ways to support us, covertly if necessary, but public if able.

        I hope you will extend the Canadians the same courtesy if the US invades them.

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        Whatever you do don’t let us drag you down. I appreciate fellowship and goodwill but we have a madman in the driver’s seat; don’t give him any fuel.

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      Many Americans are great and I like them…

      Thank you. That means more than you realize.

      Nobody can blame Canadians for responding rationally to an irrational situation.

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      I agree with a chunk of this, but your note about ‘reminding them at large of our value’ is off. Most people I talk to here in Canada look at the issues in the states as basically untenable in terms of stability / trade / geopolitical unity. Supporting Russia, attacking their allies/threatening to militarily annex peaceful democratic areas like greenland, putting up BS reasons for trade tariffs (fent). The USA is a schizo trade partner at best, where for 4 years with the dems it may be ‘normal’, but when it flips repub its suddenly xenophobic dictator land, with less stability in its agreements than a third world military dictatorship – at least those deals tend to last until the next coup, whereas Trumps agreements change based on his dementia; his administration has become comfortable with making up totally fake numbers even, which can change based on how they want to present the fake narrative about why they’re doing whatever stupid crap they’re doing. And there’s no assurance it’ll go back to a ‘stable’ dem setup for four years next time around – the way it’s trending, the dems will be locked up, with all their funding methods declared unamerican by EO, similar to the shakedown of the law firms that’s happened recently as reported by 60 minutes.

      If you live next to a family in a mansion, and they suddenly start flying a Nazi flag, beating/deporting their own maintenance staff (sometimes their own family too, by mistake), and screaming about how they’re gonna take your house, you don’t pull back on visiting as a way to ‘remind them’ of your value. You pull back because WTF, no. And if you can’t move, and they were your main contact locally, you start lookin for other friends / buying guns and protection. Again, not to remind them of your value, but because fuck no.

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        We are going to treat the US more like a different country than ours, even after “normalcy” returns, but there is a way to recognize the fact that of the 300 million people you have at least a few million within them that are victims.

        I get what you are saying, but just like ourselves, it’s not realistic to expect every American to be a hero saving the world and themselves from Trump. We are doing our part to avoid American products, so we should expect organization and pushback at a similar level, rather than waiting for vigilante justice or asking everyone to just move away immediately. A general strike is a possibility, but we shouldn’t be going “tsk-tsk” just because it’s not planned right now. There could be the beginning of discussion to separate from the United States, who knows, but that won’t happen immediately either.

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          When the Nazi’s came to power in Germany, they had less support amongst the public than the republicans do today.

          If you think it fair to hold all of Nazi germany accountable for the atrocities that went on, there’s no reason to pretend America is some “special” exception. Germans take responsibility for their past, with things like banning AFD – even if a German can legit say “It wasn’t me gassing those jews”, they still recognise they were responsible for what occurred as a result of their inaction and apathy. In the US, like 30% of them didn’t even bother to show up and vote. Apathy is no excuse, and not worthy of absolution. They literally elected a felon and a rapist.

          Regardless, I still stick by the reduction in visits and the on going boycotts aren’t about making them “realise our value” or whatever. It’s a visceral recoil experienced on an aggregate scale, to the vitriolic bile being spewed by the people they elected, targeted quite literally at all of us here in Canada. If someone vomits on you constantly, you move the fuck away – and it isn’t about “wanting to make them miss you”. It’s about the vomit.

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      I wish Point Roberts could just become part of Canada, but the US has never given even an inch of territory away once acquired.

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    I do want to feel bad, especially when hearing Canadians say, “go back to the US” like in that article. Then I hear stories about my Canadian friends going to Arizona for business and people making jokes about being a 51st state to their faces and my compassion dips.

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      Don’t ever feel bad for giving exactly what is being asked for.

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        The shitty part is that the people suffering aren’t the people making decisions, but then that’s what needs to happen for voters to vote for someone else.

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    Other countries need to hammer republican states with tariffs and boycotts. Since they control the government, it’s the only way they will relent on economic sanctions and ICE nonsense.

    Or…

    The West Coast needs to form its own trading bloc and reform ICE, as the former rules don’t seem to apply to anything anymore. We’ll continue to uphold traditional American values from 1776-2015, values held before all of this New Right horseshit.

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    I realize some of these are merely collateral damage.
    Id rather it wasn’t necessary, but in the meantime, may it start hurting enough that y’all rise up to your bullshit king.

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    Only significant pain will transform the US unfortunately. And it’ll either be economic or combative. Most MAGA voters are gone, but the “nothing will change” non-voters can be woken up from the delusion that nothing matters and helped to recognize that voting at its most basic is harm reduction.

    As a border state that sees a bunch of Canadian tourists and shoppers it’ll suck, but the only way out is through.

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        I’m incredibly sad about it too, it consumes a non-inconsequential amount of my family. But a large faction of the US have been trained since the civil rights era that it’s good to suffer hurt yourself as long as you are hurting the undesirables more.

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        Are you aware what a massive undertaking it is to deprogram people who are brainwashed in a cult?
        It’s extremely hard, takes a long time, and requires the influence from the cult is cut completely.

        So yes the MAGA cult is basically a lost cause. Unless USA decides to shut down FOX and CNN and the likes.

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          We needed to deprogram the south when they lost the war, Sherman gave it a start, but then we failed when we showed them mercy.

          Now they’ve finally won.