It’s always valid to say that everyone is susceptible to propaganda. That said, republican voters tend to be worse educated, more religious, and more likely to spread fake news than democrat voters. It seems reasonable to say that they’re more susceptible to propaganda, no?
I don’t think they’re better people, but I do think it’s generally possible for people to be more or less susceptible to propaganda than others. If I wanted to gauge that, I think education level, religiosity, and likelihood of sharing fake news would be pretty good data points.
The problem is this is all secondhand information. People have to trust something, which makes them susceptible to being manipulated. Some people choose to trust noone and others try to take in all sides and assume the truth is in the middle. Everyones acting on faith.
The point I’m making is that both sides seem to spend a lot of time arguing over each others propaganda, which is a huge waste of time. No understanding is furthered and no problem is identified or solved.
It sounds like you think that everyone is informed near exclusively through propaganda, which is reasonable- by some definitions all information shared between people is propaganda. In that case everyone would be equally influenced by propaganda. I wasn’t using that definition, but I also don’t disagree under it.
I think the larger the scale of something or the farther away from someone it happened, the more susceptible that person is to propaganda about it. Its why we think china is a third world country, and that america is a peace keeping force in the world.
Its a lot harder to put out propaganda about my extended family, because I’m actually a better source for information in that case due to proximity.
I guess I just mainly dont like the overconfidence people display, we still know so little about human limitations on a societal scale it seems.
It’s also why we think the US is an advanced country, and that’s pretty close for most Americans. I would be very surprised if nobody in your extended family was less religious/heterosexual/happy/in love with their partner than you realize. Every piece of information you receive from someone else is tainted by their perspective and intent in sharing it, including the actions you see them perform.
Everyone is susceptible, yes, but the difference is having the ability to think critically about things and not take them at face value. Which is a virtue that is absent today.
Its absent from both major parties left or right. Both sides are absolutely drowning in propaganda. Very few people think critically, and when they do they are not celebrated.
I strongly disagree. Yes, both sides are drowning in propaganda, and I’ve seen it on the left many times. However every single time, I’ve noticed someone speak up about it and it’s both a reminder that both sides have propaganda and also to not blindly believe everything. I do my best to verify facts for myself before believing any headline, and I’m sure at least half of other lefties do too. Compared to the right where if rarely someone speaks up about it, they are silenced.
You could be right but I have seen the left silenced as well, mainly through account bans or community bans, or politicians mocking or shaming those with ideas they dont like.
Literally every post including yours is just repeating the same bullshit:
Republican voters are idiots who are easily manipulated while us chad liberals are ultra smart and can see through any propaganda immediately.
You are just as susceptible as anyone else, and you are just as falsely confident in your own ability as the people you are shitting on.
It’s always valid to say that everyone is susceptible to propaganda. That said, republican voters tend to be worse educated, more religious, and more likely to spread fake news than democrat voters. It seems reasonable to say that they’re more susceptible to propaganda, no?
Each group is susceptible to different types of propaganda. I dont think liberals are better because they are deceived in a different way.
I don’t think they’re better people, but I do think it’s generally possible for people to be more or less susceptible to propaganda than others. If I wanted to gauge that, I think education level, religiosity, and likelihood of sharing fake news would be pretty good data points.
The problem is this is all secondhand information. People have to trust something, which makes them susceptible to being manipulated. Some people choose to trust noone and others try to take in all sides and assume the truth is in the middle. Everyones acting on faith.
The point I’m making is that both sides seem to spend a lot of time arguing over each others propaganda, which is a huge waste of time. No understanding is furthered and no problem is identified or solved.
It sounds like you think that everyone is informed near exclusively through propaganda, which is reasonable- by some definitions all information shared between people is propaganda. In that case everyone would be equally influenced by propaganda. I wasn’t using that definition, but I also don’t disagree under it.
I think the larger the scale of something or the farther away from someone it happened, the more susceptible that person is to propaganda about it. Its why we think china is a third world country, and that america is a peace keeping force in the world.
Its a lot harder to put out propaganda about my extended family, because I’m actually a better source for information in that case due to proximity.
I guess I just mainly dont like the overconfidence people display, we still know so little about human limitations on a societal scale it seems.
It’s also why we think the US is an advanced country, and that’s pretty close for most Americans. I would be very surprised if nobody in your extended family was less religious/heterosexual/happy/in love with their partner than you realize. Every piece of information you receive from someone else is tainted by their perspective and intent in sharing it, including the actions you see them perform.
You are likely right but I also wouldnt put a lot of confidence in my assessment of how others feel, especially generalizing it over time.
If someone tried to convince me my mother was a secret Nazi though they’d need some strong proof for me to consider it.
Everyone is susceptible, yes, but the difference is having the ability to think critically about things and not take them at face value. Which is a virtue that is absent today.
Its absent from both major parties left or right. Both sides are absolutely drowning in propaganda. Very few people think critically, and when they do they are not celebrated.
I strongly disagree. Yes, both sides are drowning in propaganda, and I’ve seen it on the left many times. However every single time, I’ve noticed someone speak up about it and it’s both a reminder that both sides have propaganda and also to not blindly believe everything. I do my best to verify facts for myself before believing any headline, and I’m sure at least half of other lefties do too. Compared to the right where if rarely someone speaks up about it, they are silenced.
You could be right but I have seen the left silenced as well, mainly through account bans or community bans, or politicians mocking or shaming those with ideas they dont like.
FTFY. (Edit) fair enough!
Sorry but I’m not defending whatever it is you are attacking here.