The point that I’m making, pointing out that they’re white, is that the news is all of a sudden concerned about them, because they’re white, because the news is racist. Brown people have been going through that same horrifying system for years and years now, and because they “belonged there” or something, unlike those pretty white girls who do not, no one gave a shit.
(I mean, no one in a position to free them cares about the white girls either, but the news is at least acknowledging that it’s something bad that this is happening to them. They talk to family members, emphasize that they didn’t really do anything wrong, that kind of thing. It’s like some kind of confusing terrible mistake that the system is suddenly being weaponized on these innocent people. When brown people are reported to be suffering those same abuses, or much much worse, they’re reported on in a much more abstract way. Like animals that are having trouble surviving in some particular environment, but not like a problem.)
Your quote marks and your original question sound like you’re really trying hard to find something offensive about the way I am saying it. Good luck! I hope you find some enemies you can be performatively anti-racist against, if that is in fact your goal. If that’s not your goal, then I would modify your language, because you’re making it sound like that’s your goal, and there are better things to be upset about in the modern day than being hyper-vigilant about anything that sounds offensive and then then proudly pointing out to everyone that it’s offensive.
(Well, I mean yes, the nature of the system is offensive, and I’m aiming to be direct about how it behaves, so in that sense maybe my language is offensive. I think it is extremely clear that the system is meant for Khalil, though, and he’s not Hispanic. He is brown. I said what I said, the way I said it, for a reason.)
The reason is because I don’t want people scrolling through my comment history taking this out of context and thinking I’m somebody who unironically and unquotatively uses the term «brown people». (Guillemets as a truce, ok?) I won’t deny that it’s performative.
Ha, fair enough. I won’t say you are wrong about someone doing that. My observation has been:
Lemmy has vanishingly few people who are actually racist/transphobic/in favor of genocide/whatever
Lemmy has a ton of people who are convinced that those people are all over the place, and devote a really substantial amount of mental energy into trying to find something they can misinterpret as being one of those things and then go on the attack (also periodically assuring one another that there are definitely a ton of those people all over the place, and attacking them to each other)
My advice would be to avoid the places where group 2 likes to congregate, because they tend to be silly places that will give people a distorted view of what’s real after a while.
I kind of find that (2) is pretty pervasive though. I think it’s one of lemmy’s biggest flaws right now. That’s why I was so careful with the quotes, but I guess it backfired (sorry). Hopefully we can all take a chill pill collectively at some point…
These white people:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/04/world/german-detained-ice-intl-latam/index.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80y3yx1jdyo
The point that I’m making, pointing out that they’re white, is that the news is all of a sudden concerned about them, because they’re white, because the news is racist. Brown people have been going through that same horrifying system for years and years now, and because they “belonged there” or something, unlike those pretty white girls who do not, no one gave a shit.
(I mean, no one in a position to free them cares about the white girls either, but the news is at least acknowledging that it’s something bad that this is happening to them. They talk to family members, emphasize that they didn’t really do anything wrong, that kind of thing. It’s like some kind of confusing terrible mistake that the system is suddenly being weaponized on these innocent people. When brown people are reported to be suffering those same abuses, or much much worse, they’re reported on in a much more abstract way. Like animals that are having trouble surviving in some particular environment, but not like a problem.)
I assumed due to the port of entry that this was meant for hispanic people, not “brown” people.
Your quote marks and your original question sound like you’re really trying hard to find something offensive about the way I am saying it. Good luck! I hope you find some enemies you can be performatively anti-racist against, if that is in fact your goal. If that’s not your goal, then I would modify your language, because you’re making it sound like that’s your goal, and there are better things to be upset about in the modern day than being hyper-vigilant about anything that sounds offensive and then then proudly pointing out to everyone that it’s offensive.
(Well, I mean yes, the nature of the system is offensive, and I’m aiming to be direct about how it behaves, so in that sense maybe my language is offensive. I think it is extremely clear that the system is meant for Khalil, though, and he’s not Hispanic. He is brown. I said what I said, the way I said it, for a reason.)
The reason is because I don’t want people scrolling through my comment history taking this out of context and thinking I’m somebody who unironically and unquotatively uses the term «brown people». (Guillemets as a truce, ok?) I won’t deny that it’s performative.
Ha, fair enough. I won’t say you are wrong about someone doing that. My observation has been:
My advice would be to avoid the places where group 2 likes to congregate, because they tend to be silly places that will give people a distorted view of what’s real after a while.
I kind of find that (2) is pretty pervasive though. I think it’s one of lemmy’s biggest flaws right now. That’s why I was so careful with the quotes, but I guess it backfired (sorry). Hopefully we can all take a chill pill collectively at some point…