• Dearche@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    The government has already admitted that there’s been evidence of tampering for over a decade now by China, though how significant of a swing that has isn’t known. I’d like to think it was quite minor, but who really knows.

    On the other hand, Russia is pretty famous for its botnet attacks on the US elections for a while now, basically early AI based attacks. Their fingerprints are all over twitter during the last several elections, not to mention the biggest driver of quite a few conspiracy theories.

    This isn’t a case of “very likely”, but rather practically guaranteed. The question is whether the countermeasures will be effective enough or not.

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      2 days ago

      Hysteria.

      Vaccine hysteria, Fuck Trudeau protests, carbon tax, immigration hatred, CPC policies at provincial levels all had significant US/oil funding. CPC media support. Whether there are bot farms upvoting twitter posts, and who funds them, has very little impact on views of Canadians compared to the established politician and media amplifications of those messages.

      Explicit anti-human disinformation spouted by US sponsored political establishment in Canada, should not be placed on same level as lobbying for peace or expanded trade narratives. The full partisan spectrum against peace is fully controlled by US and Israel lobbies. Baseless smears of unamed, unindicted, conspiracy theories that might spread an anti-warmongering narrative always gets published, and your/our programming, accepts it as confirmation of our programming, but really, it is simply ensuring that all of our politicians narratives comply with US subservience, and our enemies dictated by US, because any critical thinking/facts are just Iran/China/Russian propaganda that makes not wanting destroying Canada further, a foreign agent.

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        I get that you are trying to warn us about the states, but you are willfully ignoring all the other state and non-state actors who want to influence the election as well.

        You are a red herring.

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          I’m telling you the fearmongering exists only to ensure subversion of politics/programming of Canadians to evil. This propaganada, when believed, strengthens the average idiotic person’s commitment to enemy status, ingrained by US, of those nations.

          The divisive hatred in western politics, is an inherent function of decline and unsustainability. Oligarchy and US empire is happy to destroy themselves and allies to pillage what is left of the corpse. Pretending a few extra quarters of profits, and manufacturing/jobs can be restored through infighting, war, tax cuts, and climate destruction, is the extreme evil that is more easily controlled if all of our politicians are set to the path of evil. In an unsustainable world, eat the poor/immigrants/young makes complete sense when the old and rich understand what they are voting for, and the stupid don’t understand a hero pretending to save them (only after spending everything to lose a war on China and Russia) as inspiring enough to vote.

          The vile disgusting destruction of Canada happens only because we limit not just influence on politicians, but that any humanist perspective can be labelled treason. Trade with China, peace with Russia and Iran? That will get more downvotes than upvotes around here, and so either the bot armies are against survival/prosperity, or you/we are collectively programmed to suicide.

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              Evil is a function of power. US greatest evil. Giving it a monopoly on evil disinformation in fact prevents anti-evil messages. Even blaming the “right wing playbook” throughout world on Russia, instead of pro conservative oligarchy is a big stretch. Where anti-war on Russia is a right wing point is just sanity. A monopoly on disinformation by US and its unanimous Canadian establishment allies, including the appoplectic foreign interference fears, just has different US interest disinformation pushed on all sides.

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                Ah yes. Be afraid of the big bad US, but never mind when others do what they are doing.

                Seriously every thing you say about the US is true for a number of other states that have their own interests in respect to Canadian policy.

                You aren’t to be taken Seriously.

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                  1 hour ago

                  Peace and trade vs war and no trade not approved by US, is what got us into this mess/decline. Interests and agendas aren’t evil in themselves. US is inherently evil.

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                    1 hour ago

                    Wow, you really have drank the Flavour-aid haven’t you?

                    What do you say about Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine?