• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    3 天前

    That’s the usual explanation leftists give. But I’m not sure Democrats should listen to that, either.

    Especially since the largest shifts towards Trump in 2024 occurred in the Latino and Gen Z male demographics. Both of them are more centrist than average Democrats, and they are the demographics that Democrats need to win back in 2028.

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      3 天前

      Do you think any of that loss might have been caused by the Dems declaring a great economy, and telling voters to stop whining, and just vote Blue No Matter Who?

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        3 天前

        I don’t know.

        But I do know who Democrats need to win back if they want to win in 2028. And those voters are mostly centrists.

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          3 天前

          Im dying to know: what sort of voters do you think democrats were focusing on grabbing for this past election?

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              3 天前

              So you’re saying that democrats focused on catering to centrists for 2025, lost spectacularly, and the new strategy needs to be… catering to centrists?

              The DNC needs to hire you. Something something, the definition of insanity is…

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                3 天前

                I’m saying Democrats successfully won centrists in 2020 (and 1992, and 1996, and 2008, and 2012) but failed to do so in 2024.

                They need to understand why. But the solution is probably not “be less centrist”.

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              3 天前

              So, by “centrist” you mean Reich Wingers?

              So, to win, they just need to become a more right wing party? I’m sure that’s a winning strategy… Which it may be. Its certainly not a strategy to represent the working class, though.

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                3 天前

                By centrist, I’m specifically referring to Latinos and Gen Z males. They were Biden voters in 2020 and shifted to Trump in 2024. Democrats need to win those groups back. And they don’t seem to care much about class war.

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                  3 天前

                  By centrist, I’m specifically referring to Latinos and Gen Z males.

                  That’s not what a centrist is.

                  Have you bothered to look into why younger Latinos and Gen Z males flocked to the fascist candidate? It wasn’t because fascism is closer to the center than the Dems are… Spoiler, go play some multiplayer FPS to hear why.

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                    3 天前

                    Nobody knows for sure why, not even people who play FPS games.

                    What is clear is that Democrats need to win them back. Democrats don’t seem to think leftism will win them back, and I agree.

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          3 天前

          Ah yes, the centrists! You know the ones who “both sides” everything, and turns out? They just vote Trump?

          How many more centrists do you think the Dems will need to court? Wasn’t Dick Cheney enough? You know, the war criminal?

          How about, like, maybe just trying to listen to the working class?