A 64-year-old woman from Chicago's western suburbs is facing hate crime charges and accused of assaulting a Palestinian-American couple in a video that went viral.
hmm. I wonder how many Trump voters you know vs how many Harris voters you know. Unless you’re an statistician, your comment is low quality and deserves downvotes.
This is the exact reason why she could not have come out as critical of Israel in any way. Something people here didn’t seem to understand. She would have lost far more votes than she would have gained from the anti-genocide voters that were far overrepresented on this site.
Get off the internet. You are extremely overestimating the support for Palestine among the average American voter. This place is not at all representative of the American public.
AIPAC would have ratfucked her and tanked her campaign had she come out strong against Israel.
Look at the shit Ilhan Omar had to put up with for daring to simply bringing up Israel’s financial interests in the US…
She even signaled a day or so before election day, to anyone paying attention, that she would be harder on Israel. At the last minute so as to not give AIPAC enough time to blow up her campaign.
Or maybe I understood that first we had to get her elected, and then we pressure her re: Palestine. Since she was the only one who could ever possibly change positions.
Try living in the real world. Well I guess you have no choice now. In two months you’re gonna find out real quick just how stupid you’ve been.
Or maybe I understood that first we had to get her elected, and then we pressure her re: Palestine.
The only pressure you wanted to apply is to move to the right and genocide Palestine faster. You’re getting your fondest wish from the Trump administration.
Try living in the real world. Well I guess you have no choice now. In two months you’re gonna find out real quick just how stupid you’ve been.
You kept interpreting warnings as Trump support in bad faith, because there is no circumstance in which you want Democrats to move any direction other than as far to the right as possible.
Telling other people to get off the internet while making claims that are SO EASILY GOOGLED TO SEE THEY ARENT TRUE is such an insane take. Bruh, you need to shut the fuck up forever and stop spreading this idea that both parties had to be pro genocide and there was no other option. That attitude is not just idiotic, it’s literally killing people.
A majority of all Americans support a ceasefire. A majority supports conditional aid and a permanent ceasefire. It was the Harris campaign that made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of at least a net +6 points gain. Those votes were entirely up for grabs. That’s the fault of the campaign’s calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with having the most lethal Military and unwaivering support for Israel a year into this genocide. That single policy change would have secured her the swing states needed to win the election.
I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It’s still on the campaign to earn votes to win. If they took this election seriously, they would have been going after those votes.
If AIPAC is the concern, the best way to counteract that as a campaign would be to message about conditional military aid for a permanent ceasefire just before voting begins. That way AIPAC doesn’t have time to counter with attack ads. For context, it took AIPAC 25 million and 8 months to unseat 2 members of The Squad for being anti-genocide. Less people would hear about the pivot since it would have happened so late, but it’s still enough time to galvanize grassroots support and convince others to go out of their way to vote.
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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.
In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.
Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.
Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.
700k high propensity Democratic voters showed up during the primaries. (Which may have been undercounted). On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout. Which would reflect over 1,400,000 uncommitted votes in the general as an estimate that were completely up for grabs with a single popular policy change
Well, to be fair, not all Democratic voters are exactly sympathetic to Palestine… Some are kinda pro-Israel
But yea like 99% of the time its a Magat.
Yes but even unsympathetic Dems aren’t very likely to attack someone for their choice of sweatshirt
Nah, most of the Zionists I know voted for Harris
Edit: how is my personal experience being downvoted. Do you guys know what the Downvote button is for??
hmm. I wonder how many Trump voters you know vs how many Harris voters you know. Unless you’re an statistician, your comment is low quality and deserves downvotes.
The downvote button on Lemmy is for saying something that doesn’t fit with the neoliberal narrative.
This is the exact reason why she could not have come out as critical of Israel in any way. Something people here didn’t seem to understand. She would have lost far more votes than she would have gained from the anti-genocide voters that were far overrepresented on this site.
Wut? She should have called it a genocide. The majority of US Americans on both sides (left and right) want to stop sending them arms.
She chose the unpopular option that war and environment profiteers prefer, and she suffered the consequences.
Get off the internet. You are extremely overestimating the support for Palestine among the average American voter. This place is not at all representative of the American public.
AIPAC would have ratfucked her and tanked her campaign had she come out strong against Israel.
Look at the shit Ilhan Omar had to put up with for daring to simply bringing up Israel’s financial interests in the US…
She even signaled a day or so before election day, to anyone paying attention, that she would be harder on Israel. At the last minute so as to not give AIPAC enough time to blow up her campaign.
Not true. I think it was something like 55% of us Republicans that opposed sending more arms to Israel, and it was over 60% of Democrats.
The number is much higher for leftists, of course.
He doesn’t care. He’s all in on genocide and will make any excuse for it.
Or maybe I understood that first we had to get her elected, and then we pressure her re: Palestine. Since she was the only one who could ever possibly change positions.
Try living in the real world. Well I guess you have no choice now. In two months you’re gonna find out real quick just how stupid you’ve been.
I hope you’re honest enough to admit it.
The only pressure you wanted to apply is to move to the right and genocide Palestine faster. You’re getting your fondest wish from the Trump administration.
You kept interpreting warnings as Trump support in bad faith, because there is no circumstance in which you want Democrats to move any direction other than as far to the right as possible.
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Telling other people to get off the internet while making claims that are SO EASILY GOOGLED TO SEE THEY ARENT TRUE is such an insane take. Bruh, you need to shut the fuck up forever and stop spreading this idea that both parties had to be pro genocide and there was no other option. That attitude is not just idiotic, it’s literally killing people.
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A majority of all Americans support a ceasefire. A majority supports conditional aid and a permanent ceasefire. It was the Harris campaign that made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of at least a net +6 points gain. Those votes were entirely up for grabs. That’s the fault of the campaign’s calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with having the most lethal Military and unwaivering support for Israel a year into this genocide. That single policy change would have secured her the swing states needed to win the election.
I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It’s still on the campaign to earn votes to win. If they took this election seriously, they would have been going after those votes.
If AIPAC is the concern, the best way to counteract that as a campaign would be to message about conditional military aid for a permanent ceasefire just before voting begins. That way AIPAC doesn’t have time to counter with attack ads. For context, it took AIPAC 25 million and 8 months to unseat 2 members of The Squad for being anti-genocide. Less people would hear about the pivot since it would have happened so late, but it’s still enough time to galvanize grassroots support and convince others to go out of their way to vote.
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700k high propensity Democratic voters showed up during the primaries. (Which may have been undercounted). On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout. Which would reflect over 1,400,000 uncommitted votes in the general as an estimate that were completely up for grabs with a single popular policy change
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