“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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    Dig deeper the people who gave credit were the same members who didn’t support the strike in the first place. iirc.

    I blame everyone involved who voted to break the strike. don’t try to assert for me things I havent asserted.

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      So you don’t acknowledge when you’re wrong, and will continue to move goalposts. You’re taking a defensive posture.

      It’s becoming clear now.

      You’re a bad faith actor.

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        You’re of course welcome to continue believing that. Thats of course your prerogative. But I’m just going to point to the results since they speak for themselves.

        Harris is missing 20million votes. You were warned and decided that arguing with me about the lesser evil ‘optimal voting strategy’ than realizing the danger harris was putting you in was a good idea. 👍 Good job. Now go convince those 20million other individuals since you’ve failed here.

        You know what they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. (I know you struggle with analogies, you’re the 🐴)

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          Yes please, tell us how marxists and leninists will save humanity and not be the same as it ever was and always has been.

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              Ok. What solution do you have that will work?

              Please, elaborate on a working solution.

              Do you have anything realistic that can change the results of citizens united vs FEC’s ruling?

              You said you warned us, but your cake day is not old enough to account for that. You’re lying or you’ve been banned for being what you are.

              I’m discussing facts with a bad faith actor. I’m looking for your true colors.

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                You spouting words doesn’t make them true.

                Yes, there are solutions to these problems. they’ve been well discussed by many people over many years. I won’t be engaging with you specifically here because well frankly your not worth my time and we’re well off base from the original conversation on Biden being a fucking strike breaker. which he, and congress, empirically were.

                Am I happy he got them 4(!) days of sick leave? sure. do I think he fucking absolutely short changed them? 100%. you don’t get credit for not pushing someone off the ledge just because you patched up their leg. You’ve been told to look deeper at the union groups involved and which ones played with the biden admin vs which ones were actually on strike. go do your homework. I’m happy to be proven wrong here. this is half recalled information. But beyond that shrug.

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                  Your cake day, aka account origination date, is very recent. You claim you warned folks. You haven’t been around on here long enough to do that at all.

                  Nice contradictory paragraphs. I only engaged with you to determine which flag you’re waving. It’s clearly been the one I called you on to begin with.

                  Paraphrasing you for anyone who doesn’t want to read a bunch of half recalled (mis)information:

                  I won’t do any homework to discuss my point. Believe me bro, because I totally said so.

                  Do your homework to figure out what my weave actually means. I’m not backing up any of my allegations with facts, I don’t believe it’s worth the time. I told you to do something.

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                    Idiots the lot of you, you think this is the only place people and myself have been making efforts? You morons have been getting warned the entire fucking year via student protests, media articles, poll numbers.

                    But apparently supporting a fucking genocide and shouting ‘lesser evil’ was more important to you than winning the 25 electoral points. No fucking wonder harris lost. Couldnt even say ‘genocide is bad mkay, we’ll follow our fucking laws’

                    Never mind her absolutely non-existent labor/working class economic policies.