• assembly@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I heard in Finland it’s kinda like this. You have to do something like a year in the military or a year in civil service and I like it. Don’t want to do the military? Fine, do the postal service or some shit just do something. It’s like a great equalizer since rich and poor have to do it and they all have the same options.

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      2 months ago

      Nah, fuck conscription, people only have a limited time in this world and you shouldn’t be forced to waste it on the military/civil service. The options should be there if you want to take them, make it appealing if you want, but no one should be forced into any service.

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          2 months ago

          Perhaps they will reconsider the ‘need’ for it with their new NATO membership. Will be hard to remove something so ingrained in their culture though.

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              The United States has had the luxury of an all-volunteer military for slightly longer than I’ve been alive. My name went on the Selective Service roster. They keep that list. They’re having recruitment and retention problems. And the United States has a much bigger population than the likes of Finland.

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                We had recruiting problems because we had unrealistic medical standards. For decades people just lied about what they could. Then we decided to use a system that could actually check the records of recruits.

                Once waivers were made easily available, instead of months of admin work, recruiting goals were magically met again.

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                  Now we are having recruiting problems for entirely different issues. It also just so happened the easier waivers coincidentally went into affect when we were already going to meet recrui goals. Nowadays a draft would mean the end of America. Something like 70% of all Americans are unable to be drafted for one reason or another, and the last 30 would more than likely riot and shoot recruiters at the first opportunity.

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                    2 months ago

                    Something like 70% of all Americans are unable to be drafted

                    Under the widest interpretation of the strict medical rules. This has been blown way out of proportion. Also much of the number is supposedly excluded under the height and weight standards which we know don’t even correlate with PT scores outside of run time. And god forbid we have people who run their 2 mile a tad slower when we know combat is sprinting, and sprinting is muscle.

                    Rant aside, busting tape isn’t even disqualifying. Which is why that number is misinformation at best.