Donald Trump has taken his obsession with crafting falsehoods about Democratic nominee Kamala Harris to the next level, penning his own fan fiction on Tuesday about the vice president.

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    Now, instead of staying with the purposely vague “largest crowd ever!”, he’s saying…

    If we’re sticking with the inauguration example, Trump actually specified a “a million, a million-and-a-half” as his estimate, while the probable reality was more like 300,000 - 600,000[1]. I believe “largest crowd ever” was Sean Spencer’s line.

    For more blatant lies that are easily fact-checked he also claimed to have personally witnessed people jumping out of the windows of the skyscrapers during 9/11. Trump’s residence is more than four miles away from ground zero. [2].

    Don’t forget when he randomly said low flow toilets were causing problems with water use because people were “flushing 10 to 15 times” [3] or when he went on about the noise of windmills causing cancer [4].

    He has never had any regard for reality and has not had problems making things up out of thin air, going back decades - probably forever.


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      f we’re sticking with the inauguration example, Trump actually specified a “a million, a million-and-a-half” as his estimate, while the probable reality was more like 300,000 - 600,000[1]. I believe “largest crowd ever” was Sean Spencer’s line.

      You do realize we’re ‘arguing’ because we’re trying to figure out how big a liar Trump is, right? And you’re kinda sorta making me defend Trump here. I’m sending you the bill from my shrink. :P

      But with that said, let me put you in a crowd of 600,000 people, except you don’t know it’s only 600,000 people. I will bet the left body part of your choice that I could tell you there were 600,000 people, a million people, 2 million people, or eleventy billion people and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. I could easily see a bunch of Trump suck-ups telling him there were a million+ people there just to stroke his ego, and I could see a world where Trump believes it. If someone were to put me in front of a sea of humanity that large and tell me there’s a million people there, I’d believe it too.

      See? Plausible deniability. It’s a horrendous exaggeration that’s easily fact-checked, but Trump has some wiggle room here.

      For more blatant lies that are easily fact-checked he also claimed to have personally witnessed people jumping out of the windows of the skyscrapers during 9/11. Trump’s residence is more than four miles away from ground zero. [2].

      It was also on TV for several weeks around the clock. Everybody saw footage of people jumping from the towers.

      Plus, at the time, he was a real estate tycoon, practically synonymous with the term New York, and had a fleet of various aircraft at his disposal. He could have been in his helicopter flying to Trump Tower before they basically shut the skies down. (He wasn’t. But the average person doesn’t know that). Heck, a rich New Yorker being in downtown New York and therefore being in a position to see it happen isn’t all that unbelievable in the first place. It’s a lie, obviously, but again there’s loads of plausibile deniability there.

      If he were to try to tell that story today, he’d be saying he personally ran in to the buildings with a fire hose himself, and that the Wall St. Journal had an article yesterday that Obama personally funded the entire 9/11 attack.

      Don’t forget when he randomly said low flow toilets were causing problems with water use because people were “flushing 10 to 15 times”

      Lack of water pressure because of decades-old plumbing issues is common in shitty apartments run by slumlords. Not that Trump would know anything about being a … oh, right

      [3] or when he went on about the noise of windmills causing cancer [4].

      Ok, I surrender. You’ve got me here. Even I can’t Trumpsplain that one away.

      He has never had any regard for reality and has not had problems making things up out of thin air, going back decades - probably forever.

      I’ve gotta still mildly disagree. His bullshit used to have at least a whiff of believability and plausible deniability, even if you had to dig several dozen layers to find it. But he’s getting older. Cognitive decline, you know. Bless his heart. Now he’s just letting the shit spill out of the diaper just to see who’ll come by to clean it up.

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        You do realize we’re ‘arguing’ because we’re trying to figure out how big a liar Trump is, right? And you’re kinda sorta making me defend Trump here. I’m sending you the bill from my shrink. :P

        Yeah I don’t really know how we got here. I get stuck into proving a point sometimes, I think it’s an autism thing. I don’t know. I’ll ask my shrink.

        I’ve gotta still mildly disagree. His bullshit used to have at least a whiff of believability and plausible deniability, even if you had to dig several dozen layers to find it. But he’s getting older. Cognitive decline, you know. Bless his heart. Now he’s just letting the shit spill out of the diaper just to see who’ll come by to clean it up.

        I don’t know. Like the fake civil war memorial suggests, he’s always been perfectly fine with making things up completely I think. Don’t forget he invented at least two fake personas to talk as in efforts to talk himself up, too [1]. I think he’s always had no problem disregarding reality completely. I could probably dig out more examples but like you said earlier - this is turning into a pretty meaningless exercise!

        And I definitely do agree that his cognitive abilities seem to be on the decline. In fact it was reported on only earlier today [2]


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