• Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    101·
    4 months ago

    Most micro USB cables that came bundled with phones or gadgets were built so cheaply that they don’t even have data pins. They’re a pain to sort out whenever I want to program a board.

      • pezhore@lemmy.ml
        27·
        4 months ago

        The one good thing about Google’s Social media experiment was that guy who reviewed USBC cables to see if they actually adhered to the standards.

        It’s shocking how many didn’t have the proper resistors or components to properly handle data and charging.

      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
        16·
        4 months ago

        I used to keep every cable that came with any electronics. USB-C convinced me to throw away any cable I didn’t specifically buy. Even my charging cables are USB4 240w 40gbps because I got so tired of guessing which cable did what. I don’t even need those specs but I’ll never have to wonder which cable to use.

    • cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz
      19·
      4 months ago

      They are useful for dummies like me though! When I let my phone run out of battery while installing an update, I thought it was the end for it. But it turned out that it had just bricked itself by desperately using every single ounce of juice, so it could no longer tell the charger that it wanted to charge.

      Solved by buying a dumber charger!

    • qaz@lemmy.world
      12·
      4 months ago

      I recently went through my collection of Micro USB cables because I couldn’t fit them into the drawer anymore. About 80% wouldn’t even receive any data at all.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
      7·
      4 months ago

      This this this…what the fuck.

      If anyone here has a synth and it uses USB and they can’t get it to be seen by the computer this is why…ask how I know

      • BluesF@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 months ago

        My old kindle was a nightmare for this reason. Plus the socket got funky with age on top of that, and eventually there was really like 1 special cable that would work and it always seemed to end up hidden under 50000 things.

        Still, that does speak to the battery life of the kindle.

    • Admetus@sopuli.xyz
      6·
      4 months ago

      Yep. When I wanted to transfer files between phone and computer I had to try out 3 cables before I found one that was data capable.

  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
    755·
    4 months ago

    What kind of sadistic shit bag would actually want those defective easily broken pieces of trash back???

        • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world
          5·
          4 months ago

          God yes. I absolutely HATE that phones got slimmer and slimmer while also consuming more battery - which can’t be swapped like the good old days.

          I’ve got giant hands. Give me a phone that’s AT LEAST twice as thick with a battery that lasts at least three days.

          I’d absolutely carry a large Motorola brick phone style if those were still viable today. They do make retro gimmick phones like it, but you really do need a smartphone for a lot of specific apps.

          • TotalSonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            4 months ago

            Unihertz and Oukitel both make “rugged” phone models with giant batteries - aimed at weekend campers with giant hands. And Fairphone and Volla both have phones that still allow for easy battery swapping.

            • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world
              2·
              4 months ago

              Neat, I’ve never heard of those. Unihertz makes one with a projector in it… that’s wild. I’d be hesitant to buy a phone that’s sold on AliExpress though, I’d assume OS support wouldn’t be that great.

              • TotalSonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                4 months ago

                Yeah, software support tends to be pretty bad for their devices, with few updates, and they are often bad with posting kernel source for their devices, so hard to get custom roms or flash alternative OS’s on them too. But if you want a phone that has a battery that can last 3 days straight - they are indeed available for purchase

      • baltakatei@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        4 months ago

        If battery technology werenʼt still stuck in the Vietnam War era, 2-second rapid charging would require something like a thick boi USB-B cable to satisfy everyoneʼs desire to also use their phone as a tazer/hand grenade/flying drone/cardiac defibrillator/space heater.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
      89·
      4 months ago

      I’ve had 400% more failures of USB C than of micro. Keep in mind I’ve only had C for a couple years, and micro for 14 across numerous devices.

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
        311·
        4 months ago

        That’s got to be something you’re doing. Cause I’ve had exactly zero problems. In fact I don’t think I’ve actually met a person who’s ever had a problem with USB - C. But I have boxes (plural) of dead micro USB cables and, on top of that, I have so many devices that have been rendered useless by the fact that the micro USB port has been blown or damaged in some way it’s not even funny.

        Edit, these are not all mine. They are from multiple people.

        • SirSnufflelump@lemmy.ca
          15·
          4 months ago

          I’m with you. Those spring-latch-things on the micro just give up on life and the whole thing becomes useless or tears apart the port you try to plug them into. I say leave them in the past

          • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
            2·
            4 months ago

            Yeah, I love the counter argument of “oh, the USB - C gets dirt in it”. As though that hasn’t been an issue with every port ever conceived. 😒

            • tyler@programming.dev
              3·
              4 months ago

              Was a lot less of an issue with lightning than with other connectors, but I realize that people hate the lightning for some reason.

                • SirSnufflelump@lemmy.ca
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  And because of the little metal piece that would break off and prevent your phone from charging. You could just weasel it out with tweezers but most people would think their port was broken because they didn’t know it was even an issue.

        • shottymcb@lemm.ee
          53·
          4 months ago

          Type-C ports are a lot more sensitive to dirt in my experience. I can keep it working if I clean the port every couple weeks, but at this point I just pretend phones don’t have charging ports.

      • Storspoven@feddit.nu
        61·
        4 months ago

        Me too, first two phones I had with USB C both developed issues with the port, one shorted in the port, the other for some reason could only be charged with one specific cable, oriented in only one direction. Never had any issues with the ports on any previous USB micro phones.

        The current one works alright though, and its capable of detecting water and dirt in the port, so probably won’t short itself. So I think the technology is improving.

        • ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
          9·
          4 months ago

          My anecdotal experience is the complete opposite of you two lol. Tons of issues with micro-b and a few broken connectors. No issues thus far with C.

        • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          101·
          4 months ago

          In my experience, that’s what tends to happen with a dirty port/cable. Cleaning it out solves the problem 99% of the time.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
      271·
      4 months ago

      At least mini is robust. Micro had that tiny tab that always got damaged after a year or less cuz you inevitably tried to plug that mf in backwards

      • nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de
        102·
        4 months ago

        Yeah, mini is the best! It is robust and has a ahape that makes it easy to figure out which way to plug it. I love it when i fet a device with a mini

        • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          9·
          4 months ago

          has a ahape that makes it easy to figure out

          May I introduce you to USB C then where it doesn’t fucking matter how you plug it? I definitely prefer mini over the micro abomination but it’s not “the best”.

          • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            3·
            4 months ago

            I see you don’t work IT where the solition to “my docking station isn’t working” always, always, always is “rotate the USB-C cable”.

            I am not kidding. Vendors fuck this up either because they’re dumb or because they want to cheap out (why make sure both work if they’re interchangeable?)

      • LANIK2000@lemmy.world
        6·
        4 months ago

        I don’t think I ever managed to break it by plugging it in backwards, but they indeed brake constantly. Mine would always bend since they were so bloody thin. The only micro usb cable that didn’t break is the one going to my PC tablet, which I barely move, every other one got bumped around enough, either in my backpack or just charging in bed/on the couch, to eventually break the contacts within a year or 2, 3 max.

        I once got an adapter as a kid to plug in a controller, was super exited until I dropped it and stepped on it by accident with my naked squishy child feet, probably the fastest I ever broke one of these. Like what the actual fuck? Micros sucks so much!

      • SSTF@lemmy.world
        3·
        4 months ago

        12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! Macro USB! Macro USB! Top of the line. Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    18·
    4 months ago

    What I want is to be able to retrofit usb-c onto my older stuff.

    I was kinda annoyed at having to switch, but it really is better in every way

  • Norodix@lemmy.worldEnglish
    185·
    4 months ago

    I liked microusb. I don’t know what everyone is doing with their connectors, but I never had any contact issues.

    • pacmondo@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      4 months ago

      All I know is no matter how careful I was, it would end up not connecting unless it was held at exactly the right angle. I’ve yet to have a single USB-C connector have the issue

      • BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net
        31·
        4 months ago

        I’ve had it with shoddy c ports on various devices, including a phone (thankfully had wireless charging also). The connection pin thingy breaks off pretty easily, and causes the same issue you described for several weeks/months ahead of the actual breakoff, where it has to be in exactly the right position (and wiggling it to hit the right position obviously exacerbates the problem).

        I’ve actually bought some magnetic chargers for the more fragile electronics, so I never have to put strain on the port…

        • pacmondo@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          4 months ago

          We must be buying different USB-C cables, then. I’ve been using anker ones for years and havent had a single break like that, and I’m definitely not gentle with mine.

          • BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net
            1·
            4 months ago

            Oh, yeah no it’s not the cable, it’s the receiving port on the device itself. Sorry for the confusion :)

      • teamevil@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 months ago

        I’ve got a USB C that requires me to have it plugged in one specific direction or no charging

    • kubica@fedia.io
      6·
      4 months ago

      I would like to know what I’m doing with the connectors too, dammit.

      I don’t blame any connector, all of them end up the same for me. Externally in good condition but the conductivity the poorest.

    • Halosheep@lemm.ee
      4·
      4 months ago

      Every phone I’ve ever replaced was replaced because the micro USB broke. Now with how fast charging is I don’t even use my phone while it’s charging, but I still don’t expect the USB-C to be the part that gives out first.

      • Norodix@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 months ago

        I think the real solution is repairable gadgets. A microusb port costs pennies and if the phones were repairable at all, it would be a 5 minute solder job. The same is true for USB C as well. It might be more durable, but it can still break and it feels so stupid to replace a decive because a single cheap part broke.

    • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
      2·
      4 months ago

      The only annoyances I had were general keyed connector issues, but usually you’re able to look at the port, it’s usb a that tended to be plugged in blind, usb c can be annoying to plug in blind because if its size, just less overall annoying that og usb

  • yuri@pawb.social
    11·
    4 months ago

    I love that it’s just “no falling in love” and not “no making people fall in love”

  • wheeldawg@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    10·
    4 months ago

    C is better than any other type of USB in literally every way possible. There’s not even an argument to be made. Go on, I’ll wait.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      1·
      4 months ago

      I’m not sure about this, but maybe micro allows for slightly thinner devices?

      I wouldn’t call that an argument though, because it doesn’t even approach mattering as much as USB-c’s other benefits. Hell Apple made their thinnest ever device (the new 5.x mm thick iPads) with it, including Thunderbolt support.