• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    This is an ongoing example of why conservatives are the enemy. They are actively trying to destroy any form of democratic and people controlled process.

    This is not and has never been a “both sides are bad” situation. And anyone trying to argue as such is just as bad as the conservatives.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah; I feel like people need to recognize that

      Neither side is good

      !=

      Both sides are bad.

      There is one party that is actively unraveling our democracy and it’s not the Democrats. I don’t have to love them to realize that they are the better choice. And even then, I’d say the Democrats are “good-ish,” and many are trying to be good. They’re just not great. ¯\(ツ)

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        During the 1940s, and particularly during WWII, the US was extremely discriminatory (to the point of outright murderous) to black people and rounded up anyone of Japanese descent and put them in camps (often while white people took over their old areas they’d carved out for themselves). They were awful to gays as well.

        But you know what the US didn’t do? Murder millions of their own citizens in an organized genocide, stripping them of their humanity before killing them en masse in gas chambers.

        But nobody (sane) “two-sides” WWII. The US wasn’t good, but it was definitely on the right side of that fight, and the fascists needed to be stopped. If we waited for some “good” country to stop the Axis, because we didn’t want to support the US, the fascists would have won.

        The saying goes “the perfect is the enemy of the good,” but sometimes the Good is the enemy of stopping goddamn fascists.

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          The way you phrased the last sentence makes it seem like you think the phrase “perfect is the enemy of good” means that perfect is better than good, which while true isn’t the point of that phrase.

          I’m assuming you wrote it that way for dramatic effect, but I wrote this comment for today’s 10,000

          P.S. can someone calculate what that number would be for the global population, as the 10,000 is for the US

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            The phrasing was intentional, and symmetrical. The point of the phrase is if you are holding out for the perfect, you’ll fail to even get the good. And if you are holding out for a “good” politician (e.g. refusing to vote because your particular chosen politician isn’t in the race), you’ll fail to keep fascists away from power.

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        Yeah but Biden couldn’t cancel my student loans so I’m voting for the other guy this time

        /s in case it wasn’t obvious