I joined reddit on the tailwind, so it was all echo chamber, we hate newcomers, gatekeeping, automod frenzy, too many rulebreakers, too many rules, etc I could be wrong, but thats what I imagine it used to be like.

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    I was around when reddit first started. There were Nazis. It seemed fine, because Nazis were useless idiots, and people told them to go fuck themselves.

    Reddit in 2016 actively helped install a fascist who eventually tried to overthrow American democracy.

    Reddit now is a place where “fuck off, Nazi” is punished more reliably and more harshly than being a goddamn Nazi.

    This service feels familiar - but not for the reasons I’d like. The fools in charge of every popular instance think scolding “be polite!” and punishing rudeness instead of trolling are a force multiplier for trolls. If you can just keep saying dumb shit until someone says a no-no word - they get the boot, and you win.

    I want a forum where “here is why you’re an asshole” is moderated based on whether the explanation is correct.

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      I actually got told by Reddit Staff that they’d contact law enforcement if I made anymore references to “punching Nazis”, then they banned me for “Report Abuse”

      They never did a damn thing about the trolls who kept flagging any post referencing me being trans or anything positive about transpeople as “Suicidal” or “Promoting Self-Harm”

      Got those “A redditor has asked us to reach out to you concerning…” all fucking day.

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        The worst sin of reddit mods was demanding “report and move on!” and then never doing anything about reports. Or scolding you for messaging the subreddit instead of using the report button.

        Either do the fucking work or let people talk.

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          The worst part of that is they started banning people for “Report Abuse” even though I checked, “Report Abuse” is not even mentioned in the TOS.

          How the fuck, are you gonna tell me to “Report and move on”, if you ban me for reporting.

          Incidentally, guess why I had to stop using Reddit…

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        They banned me for very obviously joking that someone else should punch the fascist attorney general of Indiana in the face and it was some sort of punny reply based on something he said. They only reinstated me because a bunch of mods from multiple subreddits took my side.

        They ban for “won’t someone rid me of this turbulent priest” comments apparently.

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                You didn’t say “go on, make my day” there. That’s a lie. That phrase doesn’t even appear. What a bizarre thing to lie about when anyone can just look.

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                  It’s in semiquotes because it’s paraphrasing. Jesus. This level of rigid demand makes sense if you’re on the spectrum or ESL or something - otherwise, what the fuck?

                  I said ‘Go on, tell me this one’s synecdoche.’ (Again: paraphrasing.) You said ‘It is synecdoche, though.’ I said ‘Correct. They both are.’ And then you started litigating like I’d insulted you, or contradicted myself. Even when I directly paraphrased what you wrote, to agree with it.

                  You missed a common idiom - had it laid out for you in detail - repeatedly took offense over nothing - and I’m guessing reported it. So I’m a little surprised to see you elsewhere in my replies, frustrated at overzealous moderation, when it’s your indirect implications in question.

                  You’re wrong about those too, by the way. “Turbulent priest” comments are a call to violence. That line was prototypical stochastic terrorism. Not directly saying “kill that prick” - but clearly communicating that you’d like that prick killed. Even in the twelfth century people recognized this was a flimsy excuse.

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                    You’re really worked up about this, but you might notice that the moderator also didn’t understand your “common idiom” and told you to explain yourself or shut up. Funny how you left that part out.

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          There’s a negative stereotype that Transpeople kill themselves all the time, studies have shown this number to be dropping and the suicides to be caused by abuse from others and denial of transition related care.

          The Far Right ignores this and goes “Lol transpeople kill themselves because transpeople dumb”

          So it became a thing to report anyone Trans on Reddit, for “Suicidal Behavior”, which Reddit never looks into the validity of, they just send you a bunch of suicide hotline links… which is well intended, but there really should be a mechanism in place to find out if they’re trolling.

          Eventually when it became common knowledge that it’s so exploitable it became a more in general method of griefing others.

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          Same here, I read it was supposed to be a way of trolling, didn’t get the intention for my situation, but was just so fucking stupid anyway

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      I got an account banned from Reddit for saying “the only good nazi is a dead nazi” and frankly I’m fine with being banned from any community that doesn’t agree with that message.

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      Reddit in 2016 actively helped install a fascist

      you can install a fascist?

      can you uninstall one too or?

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      I feel like political discourse didn’t start on Reddit until after subreddits were added