• SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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    Most meat alternatives like impossible burgers are bullshit.

    Ultra processed shit food.

    There’s a lot of good vegan food that doesn’t pretend to be burgers, ribs or anything else besides what is it.

    Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?

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      If you’re looking for context, this is a shit post about my recent interactions with a certain community of vegans

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      Mammals need to be pregnant to produce milk, so to get cow milk you have to impregnate a cow. That’s what they mean by rapist.

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        They only need to be pregnant once. The calf milk is different than normal milk and can not be sold. The stuff we drink is what happens after a calf is born but you never stop milking so the cow stays productive. I think you need to revisit mamal biology. Once the process of Milk production is started milk will be produced in most mammals till the long term cessation of mamary tisssue stimulation.

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          Im sorry, but what kind of mammal biology are you talking about that says that two different types of milk come from the same animal?

          Also, milk production usually does go down somewhat over time and sometimes even does cease, and it’s different for every individual, which makes it less predictable and less profitable to just impregnate a cow once. This is why dairy farmers almost always try to impregnate their cows yearly. Here’s one source, there’s plenty more coming up if you look it up on a search engine though https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/dairy/farming

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              Or every day even! Remember, you sound crazy for complaining about things I’ve decided I like so you should just let it happen. Care for a nice tall glass of rape juice? 🥛

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          Think about dairy what you will, but ‘I didn’t do it, I paid someone else to do it’ is never a very solid argument in a debate on ethics.

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      Impossible burgers cooked right on the skillet are pretty damn good, imo. And easy. I’m no vegetarian but we keep them in our weeknight rotation.

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          They have more protein, fiber, and iron than beef.

          Red meat consumption has been shown to increase risks of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer, full stop.

          I don’t know what a “health food” would be, but I would probably classify them as foods that are healthier alternatives to foods that are proven bad for your health. Which is what “Impossible” etc. are.

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            Health food is anything that isn’t processed to hell and back.

            Impossible is just alternative junk food. Like vapes are for cigarettes. Healthier still means crap. I’d probably just use mushrooms or tofu as a patty if I wanted an alternative to beef.

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            You’ve never heard people say they’re made from plants so they are healthy?

            It’s usually the same people who talk about their nerds or potato chips being gluten free or their Oreos vegan.

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      Yea, but they also hate the lab grown stuff that’s being worked on which is so close to the real thing without all the killing and cruelty and stuff

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      Another frustrating thing about alternative meat burgers is they are often still using animal products…

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          It’s like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but ‘conspirator to commit murder’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

          It’s ok if that’s what you want to do. No judgement here.

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              You see part of the problem with the system then. This is why vegans go as far as possible and practicable, because animal abuse is built into everything and is not optional. We’re trying to minimize it where we can, and use that momentum to eventually get rid of some of the malevolent built in nonsense we all have to deal with. Nobody should be subsidizing cow rapists and murders, and it shouldn’t be a requirement to live here to.

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                Your language makes you sound like an anti-abortion nutcase.

                Cow rapist!

                Baby killer!

                It’s all the same to someone that doesn’t feel as strongly about your beliefs as you.

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                  Sorry, do you have another term for the non consensual penetration of someone’s ass and vagina? I’m listening.

                  Turns out the answer was “no”. Color me surprised.

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          lol

          How the fuck did you think milk was produced? This is literally grade school biology. Farmers rape cows for their milk, and you pay them for the privilege.

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            I think you seriously underestimate how much non-human raping goes on in the animal world. Many species have dicks that have evolved specifically to facilitate rape.

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              And…?

              What does that have to do with humans choosing to rape cows for profit? Total non-sequitur. Bears shit in the woods, does that mean you do too? Animals rape, therefore you should too?