• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    "Texan Craig Adlong. He pleaded guilty in 2020 for lying on firearm transaction forms, saying the guns were for his personal use. He purchased 95 semi-automatic rifles at Guns Unlimited in Katy, Texas, making seven visits over two months.

    Sixty-six of those firearms were recovered in Mexico, according to the leak."

    How many is too many “for personal use”?

    95 guns of the same type is CLEARLY not for personal use. 13 guns per visit x 7 visits? No questions?

    I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.

    But if you’re out buying 95 #0 Phillips screwdrivers, that’s not “for personal use”.

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      ATF says multiple sales of rifles must be reported. A “multiple sale” is defined as “when a licensed dealer or pawnbroker sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, more than one semiautomatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than .22 (including .223/5.56 caliber) to an unlicensed person.”

      95 rifles in seven visits obviously qualifies. These absolutely should have been reported.

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          Those have detachable magazines. They fall under this category.

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          If the lever action lower can function with a semi-auto bolt and buffer system, then the ATF is gonna call it semi-auto anyway and it would still fall under that law. That lower receiver doesn’t have space for a buffer, so you’re never gonna be able to run it semi-auto. This is just a box-fed lever action instead of a tube-fed one.

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      Best use case I can tgink of for multiple copies of the same gun is torture tests? Or something similar where the gun is not expected to be functional afterwards. And even then >~5 is kind of excessive.

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        I could see that. Multiples of the same gun so you could, I dunno, test one in a salt water environment, freshwater rainforest, desert, arctic, and control.

        But 95? Yeah, no.

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      I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.

      As you need proper training on each individual gun i find it hard to believe that there is any person who reasonably needs more than 5 or 6 firearms and that includes sports, hunting and self defense

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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        4 months ago

        Well, rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols. The skill set downgrades pretty easy, upgrading not so much.

        After shooting my .45-70 Government, a .22 pea shooter is no big deal, going the OTHER way though…

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            Nah, never shot anything more threatening than an old school metal coffee can. Just being a gun owner doesn’t make you dangerous.

            I own several hammers too, doesn’t make me a carpenter. ;)

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              Oh I was just making a dumb joke about calling a 22 a pea. I’m a videographer and don’t own a camera, haha.