• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    The Dems have never used the filibuster to block Republican legislative initiatives. It’s only been used to stop things like the Civil Rights act, and ensure that massive government handouts are given to well-connected contractors.

    You need to intenalize the purpose of the filibuster, it’s not to stop “the majority to trample the rights of the minority,” or whatever idealic thing you’ve fixated on.

    Here is something to chew on:

    The two most substantial legislative actions of the past 12 years — President Obama’s Affordable Care Act and President Trump’s tax cuts — were achieved only because one party used an exception to the filibuster rules.

    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/05/politics/filibuster-senate-explained/

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        6 months ago

        There are literally no sources there. Give me the senate records that show the dems did it. There should be bills that came up for the passing and the outcome of those bills. I see nothing there. That websites source is “trust me bro.” Also you then cite mediabias fact check to fact check the source that of the filibuster claim.

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          6 months ago

          Bills don’t come up for a vote if they’re filibustered. They leave committee, and then there’s debate. You need 60 votes–cloture–to end debate and bring a bill up for a floor vote. If either party leader has indicated that their party intend to filibuster a bill, then the bill never even comes up, because you’re not going to be able to end debate and take it up for a vote. If you want to see what was filibustered over the years, your best bet is going to be looking at what got referred out of committee, and then never got voted on in the first place.

          If you want to do that kind of legwork, be my guest.

          Are you saying that mediabiasfactcheck is unreliable? That’s a bold move there.