• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    She just babbles and has no solution to the problem. She’s addicted to the media attention.

    As voters we need to push politicians to make changes and in America that is through taxation and not bans.

    Biden has pushed stupid legislation that won’t accomplish anything.

    You want to reduce ice cars? Increase gasoline taxes and remove subsidies. Gas would double in price with would reduce the miles people drive and the size of their cars.

    The problem is it’s a global problem and everyone needs to pitch it.

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      Hmm… seems like you should thank her.

      Because she participated in that protest, she got arrested, a news source wrote about it, and you got to bring up good points about how we need to take more action.

      Yeah she babbles speaks about the issues, but since she’s not (yet?) an elected official, what else would you have her do?

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        Personally I’d like to see her go away. She does nothing to help in my opinion and gives credit it’s a crazy conspiracy. She just comes off as an idiot.

        The way you make change is vote for people that want to make real changes. Not stupid crap like carbon credits. People that have real ideas.

        You talk to your friends about it. I’ve got several people to switch to teslas and solar power. It requires logic and facts.

        Just babbling like an idiot turns people off and they don’t think a thing but made up conspiracy.

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          Ah yes, the person who has rallied up more people (current and future voters) globally around the climate issue than anyone else as of late has done nothing to help. I think what you mean is that she annoys you.

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            7 months ago

            Never argue with an idiot. They’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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            She damages the vision.

            I don’t know anyone she’s rallied. She’s universally made fun of this country.

            What has changed since she’s been ranting? Nothing. She wants the focus on her and not the issue

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              Ah, Neuromancer doesn’t know anyone she’s rallied. My bad, case closed then! lmao

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          She literally formed the largest climate protest movement in the world, while you sit here and spread dumbass conspiracy bullshit about her.

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            7 months ago

            I never said anything about a conspiracy. I said she an idiot who really isn’t helping.

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      7 months ago

      You’re still advocating individual car ownership as a sustainable future…buses, trams, trolleys, LRT, trains. 6000lbs (2200kilos) just to get a few groceries is over kill.

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        Maybe you don’t live in America but for the foreseeable future, that is the solution. The first step is a reduction in using fossil fuels. Public transportation would take decades to build out to a useable level in America.

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            What do you mean you can’t come up with a transportation solution to transport millions of people around at any given moment that’s more convenient than them being able to travel to their destinations on their own without a long schedule?

            In case I need it, /s.

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            Not just in Lemmy, but I think there’s an increasing divide between the demographic I’m going to call “has only ever lived in a major city” and “everyone else”, especially online.

            A shocking amount of people (to me) have never once in their life lived in an area with less than like 500,000 people. To many of these people, it is incomprehensible to imagine that a lot of people have legitimate needs for cars. They have good intentions, and many of them are otherwise smart people, but they really struggle to imagine how and where many Americans live, and what all goes into things like the transportation of goods and services.

            Public transportation is great! But without what would be the largest investment in infrastructure in human history by several magnitudes there’s simply no way to just get rid of 90% of car ownership or whatever.

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                Why do people such as yourself read such a long comment, only to try to squeeze something out to disagree with?

                I never said that. I never said anything of the sort. What drives you to do such a thing?

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                  Public transportation is great! But without what would be the largest investment in infrastructure in human history by several magnitudes there’s simply no way to just get rid of 90% of car ownership or whatever.

                  Because that is what the quoted argument boils down to. Apathy because it can’t be done instantly. No alternative solutions, just giving up.

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                    Good lord you’re a crybaby. I say something is an objectively big task to do and you instantly start stamping your feet that I didn’t first preface how good and noble of a goal it was enough beforehand so I must have evil intentions.

                    Do I need to make every statement starting with “I absolutely support building transportation and our local unions, however, it may be a large task. But! By overthrowing the ruling class and working together we can get it done!” For you to not be offended? Get a grip dude.

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                Chicago was pretty good. I could do most things using the L. I don’t do buses. Not my type of crowd

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            I would like to see more public options but at this time, that isn’t going to help much. California has been trying to build high speed rail since I was a kid. Still hasn’t done shit. I think hybrids are the gap technology until we can get electric cars more affordable. The 1% will always act like it’s everyone else and even if we increased fuel taxes. It won’t phase them.

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      Did you even read the article? That’s literally what they’re calling for. The removal of subsidies.

      As for everyone needing to pitch in, just no. The vast majority of emissions come from sources outside public control. The “everyone needs to pitch in” and “watch your personal carbon footprint” crap is just effective marketing from BP.

      Not saying cutting down personal emissions is bad, every little helps…

      but it’s not a solution. We need to be holding the big emmiters accountable.

      The only realistic way to doing that is through inconvenient protests like blocking roads and making sure we can’t be ignored. How else do you force governments to turn on their benefactors?

      It’s been over 50 years now, and we’ve seen very little real movement on this. it’s been mostly token and empty gestures, and pandering. It’s time we stepped up our game.

      Soooo she’s got the right idea imo

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      Addicted to the attention? I know nothing about her except her age and her stance on climate change

      She doesn’t go off topic, she doesn’t do talk shows. Maybe she loves the attention deep down, but she stays on mission…She doesn’t abuse the privilege. She’s allowed to enjoy the process, I hope she does.

      I challenge you to follow your convictions to that extent

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        She doesn’t abuse the privilege

        Like when she threw the fit that the train didn’t give her first class. Yep, doesn’t abuse her privilege at all.