• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    5 months ago

    They have important policy differences

    No, they don’t. Biden has important policy differences with other adult politicians and those differences are worth talking about. Trump eats McDonald’s and watches Fox News and rants about Mexican rapists and makes incoherent yelling at his advisors that sometimes they translate into crazy policy decisions for him, but there’s nothing like a “policy.” He thinks that tariffs are money that another country pays to us, and so sometimes he’ll create a tariff that will create very real harm to real people inside the US, and then brag about how much money we’re going to collect because of it, because he doesn’t know his ass from his elbow as far as “policy” and doesn’t want to learn. I meant that analogy like the Golden Retriever flying the airplane as a very serious description of the situation where Trump is making economic “decisions.” It’s like a toddler cooking dinner. It’s like putting a crypto bro in charge of the federal reserve. It’s insane on a level that’s easy to normalize and lose sight of, and you’re feeding into that normalization by talking about Trump’s “policy.”

    Like my personal economic situation is not noticeably different for having Biden as president vs. Trump. I’m aware of these policies but they haven’t changed the lives of me or anyone I know.

    (1) This is a bad way to approach the question “is person A better to lead the country or person B”, like if you or your friends don’t personally have kids then education isn’t important, but more importantly (2) Yes they have. Normally, this argument would be plausible because the mechanisms are so indirect, but the gulf between Trump and Biden is so vast that I’m easily confident enough telling you that there has been a difference.

    I’ll give an example: Around a million people have died of Covid, and a lot of them didn’t need to, but Trump fucked up the Covid response basically as badly as it’s possible to do without deliberately making the vaccine illegal or something. For any of the people who died because of Trump’s incompetence (some friends-of-friends of mine did), their economic lives have been changed because of the difference between Trump and Biden. They can’t go to work or support their families anymore.

    If you had your student debt canceled I’m sure that’s a huge deal but my understanding is it was a small number of people. Please correct me if that’s incorrect.

    It’s $138 billion to 3.9 million people.

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      You’re missing my point. I’m not saying that our individual economic well being is a rational way to decide who to vote for. It clearly isn’t, and maybe I should have stated that explicitly since it is a common erroneous assumption.

      But unfortunately that is a way that many people contextualize their vote, and what I’m saying is that even from that perspective, the idea that the “Trump economy” was better seems totally disconnected from reality.

      3.9M is a lot of people so maybe I underestimated the reach of this program.