• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Unfortunately, failing to choose means choosing the worse option.

    Though, had all the young pro Palestine leftists bothered to show up during the 2020 or 2016 primaries, there might be a more progressive president and thus a better set of choices. Unfortunately, showing up to the primaries seems anathema to the under 30 crowd, hence, two terrible choices.

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      8 months ago

      You may not like it, but that’s democracy- even progressive people you wish would vote for Biden might not, even if it means trump wins. Some of them are accelerationists who will vote for Trump directly, no matter how ill advised that may be.

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        8 months ago

        And that’s their right!

        BUT, to complain about the effects of their own choices is absurd.

        “I made a conscious decision to not vote progressive and now a centrist politician is enacting centrist policies with entirely predictable outcomes! How could this have happened?!?”

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          8 months ago

          Luckily the people in this article are making their voices heard, looking for a more progressive option. I think people will complain no matter who gets voted in, especially if a person they didn’t vote for won. But I don’t know that people who are voting against Biden because of Palestine will wish he had won if trump wins, I think they might wish Biden had taken this hint and acted differently, but that’s not the same thing.

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            8 months ago

            Luckily the people in this article are making their voices heard

            And if they’d done so in the primaries, that change might have done some good for Palestineans.

            But I don’t know that people who are voting against Biden because of Palestine will wish he had won if trump wins, I think they might wish Biden had taken this hint and acted differently, but that’s not the same thing.

            Not the same thing to us rich westerners, no. And it’s not the same to the Palestineans who would suffer worse with a trump presidency.

            This position makes zero sense. If you give a damn about Palestineans and the worse option wins, how could you not wish the better option had won?

            The folks considering not voting either don’t actually give a damn about Palestinean well being or are mind bogglingly counter productive.

            There is no universe in which someone is simultabeously: a) genuinely concerned about Palestineans B) considering not voting Biden because of Palestine and C) has at least the intelligence of a turnip.

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              8 months ago

              This is the primary.

              I don’t think you understand how bad things are under Biden- would you actually vote for someone under whose approval your relative thirsted to death? If so, congratulations on your compartmentalization ability. That would be essentially endorsing those actions and many, many people aren’t able to do that.

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                8 months ago

                This is the primary.

                Against an incumbent. The meaningful primaries were 2020, 2016.

                would you actually vote for someone under whose approval your relative thirsted to death?

                “My relative died, who cares if my choices actively make things worse for those who are still alive?”

                Sucks to have that sociopath as a relative I guess.