• mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
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    8 months ago

    Yeah. The “I’m just not voting” (fuckin atrocious stupid idea) “Biden is bad” (he’s not) “Gaza is all Biden’s fault” (it’s not) shills are so noisy, that it took me a while (and reading Ezra Klein and seeing Jon Stewart talking about it) to cotton on to the idea that there is actually a valuable point there.

    I honestly don’t know what to do. I’m going to vote for the Democrat in the general election obviously, because I don’t want the end of democracy and an apocalypse in the rest of the world any more than anyone else does, but I wish I could see some sort of realistic way for the Democratic nominee to be someone else. I’m just about to vote in the primary but that will obviously do nothing at all to influence things for real.

    If anyone has ideas, please let me know.

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      8 months ago

      Of course Gaza is not Biden’s fault, absolutely not. I’m not saying that. And I’m very much a ‘leftie’ (much more left than the democrats are in the US in fact, I would be more like Bernie).

      However he could certainly be a bit less unwavering in his support for Netanyahu who is really committing atrocities. If I could vote in the US I would still vote for him, but with a heavy heart. I’m sure he’s not happy with what is happening in Gaza but I would prefer a president who would not be afraid to speak up. And I’m really starting to worry about his mental state as I mentioned.

      I have no ideas either, sadly… But it would be so nice if someone fresh would actually get a chance.

      What you could do of course is vote for someone else in the primaries. After all, it will still be a democrat, it won’t affect the outcome of the presidential election and at least your voice of dissent is counted somewhere. If a lot of people do this, maybe some bells will ring at the DNC.

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      8 months ago

      If anyone has ideas, please let me know.

      1. Keep voting against fascism, and eventually, if we are able to hold that line, the old guard will die off and we can get some real change. Ex: Dianne Feinstein, she’s gone now and we’re going to get Adam Schiff who’s better, or hopefully Katie Porter who’s even better than Schiff.

      2. Do what you can to people on board with better voting systems like ranked choice voting, approval voting, anything that gets us away from first past the post bullshit. Use it for game night, use it in the office, etc. Get it into the mainstream public conscious. Until enough people start asking why we don’t use it for elections.