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    9 months ago

    What do you propose Israel do about all of the missiles being fired by Hamas?

    Don’t they already have the Iron Dome? That btw lets missiles drop on “poor Palestinian areas” because their systems categorize them as “empty lands”?

    What do you suggest they do? Aside from killing every man, woman and child, of course?

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      9 months ago

      I suggest Israel root out Hamas. Then hold elections to create a Palestinian government that’s willing to negotiate with Israel for their own state

      The iron dome also isn’t perfect and doesn’t change the intent. If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?

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        9 months ago

        To do “self defence”, all Israel had to do was guard its borders and have some diplomatic solution that didn’t completely dehumanize Palestinians, maybe policies that listen to expert opinions on these subjects and how this is causing extremism to double. They didn’t need to invade “in self defence”.

        If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?

        Funny how that works both ways.

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          9 months ago

          Alright so from your perspective it seems you expect Israel to do all the heavy lifting here. Just ignore the attacks and hope Hamas is willing to negotiate one day? Even though they make it clear they want to remove Israel

          What should the Palestinians/Hamas be doing? Continuing with their current course of action until Israel decides to do something different?

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            9 months ago

            Giving people rights and ending apartheid and reducing extremism is heavy lifting? As opposed to now???

            But yes I expect the supremacist colonial landgrabbers to do the heavy lifting.

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              9 months ago

              So what exactly does that entail? Remove all troops, accept continued missile attacks and pray that Hamas eventually gets sick of it and negotiates?

              I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?

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                9 months ago

                And surprlse surprise how you spin the discussion in the last question towards wanting to make me look like someone who justifies kidnapping and murder

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                  9 months ago

                  I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

                  Do you expect Hamas to change nothing? Because I can’t imagine telling Israel “hey we know these guys are firing missile after missile at you but can you please stop fighting back and let them continue”

                  Realistically the first move towards peace without continued conflict has to come from Hamas. Or Israel need to have removed Hamas completely, pick one

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                    9 months ago

                    I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

                    Please. Don’t shit me.

                    Your last question:

                    I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?


                    What a nice false dichotomy, though!

                    In any case, how sad them for Israel that it has successfully created the Hamas of today and tomorrow, and for years to come because of its violent approach.