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    9 months ago

    Giving people rights and ending apartheid and reducing extremism is heavy lifting? As opposed to now???

    But yes I expect the supremacist colonial landgrabbers to do the heavy lifting.

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      9 months ago

      So what exactly does that entail? Remove all troops, accept continued missile attacks and pray that Hamas eventually gets sick of it and negotiates?

      I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?

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        9 months ago

        And surprlse surprise how you spin the discussion in the last question towards wanting to make me look like someone who justifies kidnapping and murder

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          9 months ago

          I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

          Do you expect Hamas to change nothing? Because I can’t imagine telling Israel “hey we know these guys are firing missile after missile at you but can you please stop fighting back and let them continue”

          Realistically the first move towards peace without continued conflict has to come from Hamas. Or Israel need to have removed Hamas completely, pick one

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            9 months ago

            I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

            Please. Don’t shit me.

            Your last question:

            I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?


            What a nice false dichotomy, though!

            In any case, how sad them for Israel that it has successfully created the Hamas of today and tomorrow, and for years to come because of its violent approach.

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              9 months ago

              Based on this I’ll just assume you have nothing further to say At this point you aren’t really engaging and I think it’s fairly clear why

              Anyway have a good one mate. Hopefully this conflict comes to and end sooner than later