I prefer “list” view over grid view. Switching to grid view shows six videos before the break, but significantly less information about the video.
God, Youtube has gone to shit lately.
Lately in this context, meaning about the last 15 or so years.
They added sort from oldest back! wooooooo. One step forward after being launched backwards into a pile of shit.
They only removed it because it interfered with a new feature they added to the mobile app. If they removed it for monetary reasons (like what they did with dislikes), they wouldn’t have brought it back
I don’t give a cunt’s dick why they removed it in the first place, why are you defending anything about it
I’m not defending anything. I think you misunderstood my comment
uBlock Origin makes this easy:
Instructions Screenshot 1. Find a Shorts section on the page 
2. Select the element picker in uBlock Origin 
3. Select the Shorts section 
4. Click “Create” 
5. Enjoy 
I would recommend clicking Preview before Create. You know what will be removed before creating a rule is better.
There are pre-made filterlists that deal with annoyances like this (which tend to end up more reliable as tools that randomize/minify CSS classes get widely adopted), not just on YT but the wider web as a whole. I’ve written about how to set them up here: https://blahaj.zone/@ShittyKopper/pages/usable-web if you want to take a look at it
This is a great resource, thank you very much!
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
This is just temporary, if you refresh the page it will show section again.
It was not temporary for me. I had to go into my settings and delete my changes to get it working again.
This is defined as temporary in uBlock documentation.
Reloading the web page will cause all removed elements to return.
Your link talks about the element zapper, the icon that looks like a lightning. The instructions above talk about the element picker, the icon that looks like an eye dropper.
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
Some more filters for blocking Shorts from YT can be found here.
I can’t thank you enough.
OMG thank you ☺️
Boy am I glad I have the extension that makes shorts invisble
May I ask which extension you are running?
Thanks. I find the Enhancer for YT a bit over kill.
Have you tried pockettube? it allows yyou to create categories so you can bunch your channels together. It’s pretty cool.
Youtube added shorts to subscription, and i added Youtube-shorts block to firefox.
Nice one
Same. They can try as much as they want to make it happen, but if people don’t want it, people don’t want it no matter how much they force them.
I wish they would give us a user setting to completely hide shorts from ever showing. I have never watched a short and I will never watch a short. It’s just not the type of content for me. If I wanted TikTok style videos, I would download TikTok. It’s crazy how much stuff YouTube tries to cram down your throat even as a premium subscriber.
Edit: also just a great example of companies jumping on a bandwagon to make a quick buck. YouTube is a well established video hosting and streaming service, they didn’t need to spend how every many millions of dollars adding shorts (not that they would have bothered spending that money on the user/creator experiences anyways)
You can yeet with plugin
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/
Ooh this will be a nice add on for desktop, Ty Ty
I agree with you so much. The only time I ever click on shorts are accidents. I hate them. I don’t use instagram, tiktok, anything like that. I don’t want to see shorts. They are horribly crammed and well, way too short. Leave me alone and stop autoplaying on my tv.
Fuck YouTube shorts. It’s infuriating that YouTube doesn’t provide us an option to remove all traces of that fuckin cancer from the platform.
My biggest issue is so many of the people I sub that have shorts, the shorts are their normal videos but only a small clip of it. I dont want that, Im already watching the videos!
Agreed. Some of the YouTubers I watch have said that YouTube is forcing them to make shorts because their videos won’t be shown to people if they don’t. A couple are even doing a bit of malicious compliance and taking the piss out of YouTube Shorts because they hate it as much as we do.
If we wanted short clips, we’d be on TikTok damnit!
If we wanted short clips, we’d be on TikTok damnit!
Exactly. YouTube doesn’t want to lose out on that revenue/time spent on other platforms…
Worse: When you watch a short that appeared in your search results, all related videos are general shorts and NOT more search results. It’s too distracting, and for a person with ADHD such as myself, it kills my productivity. 🤬
Well anyway yt search result shows 3-5 relevant results then some shitty sexually suggestive videos with “People also watch this” whuch have zero relation with what I search and further scrolling shows the first 3-5 results again then loop forever
This is the experience on mobile idk web tho
Removed by mod
You can use the regular Youtube interface for shorts, I do it everytime I open one:
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go to a short video
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replace the
/shorts/part of the URL by/v/ -
??? (trigger warning: old meme)
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Profit
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It’s all intentional. They know that overall it increases engagement and that’s all they care about.
Even Instagram and Tiktok let people fast forward videos. YouTube needs to get their shit together.
The zombie clicker demographic is their best customer/product
I hate this format of content so much. An automatically reloading, never ending stream of snippets that are hardly informative even if they try. Fucking looks like they are trying to hypnotize us.
Oh wait, they absolutely are. Stop thinking about not being able to afford a living even though you bust your ass of everyday. Stop worrying about the climate. Get a new iphone and obediently watch citizen.
This is not a defense of TikTok style short form content. It’s just that from time to time, I do enjoy the shorter style videos. Like when I have 5 minutes to kill, watch a few short videos and be on my way.
What I really don’t like is that if you choose the app and the last thing you watched was a short, it opens right back up to to Shorts. Very annoying.
When I have 5 minutes to kill I open Wikipedia and read the article of the day.
Reading is better for your brain and attention span, and on top of that you learn something new.
I should do this more often. Thanks for the suggestion!
Plus they commit the biggest sin possible in video…VERTICAL VIDEO. I hate this garbage trend of everything being designed for phones. Vertical videos suck. They are terrible to watch on desktop. You can rotate your phone sideways, you can’t rotate your TV, laptop, monitor, projector, etc. vertical (at least not most of the time).
Trying to hop on that ADHD train.
If you use Ublock you can use this filter to clean Shorts from Youtube (FTR you only need 2 lines near the bottom that have the word ‘short’ in them, but Lemmy formatting is balls so it’s all or nothing):
! https://www.youtube.com www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__fill www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__stroke www.youtube.com###sponsor-button www.youtube.com###top-level-buttons-computed > ytd-button-renderer.ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape www.youtube.com###flexible-item-buttons > .ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape www.youtube.com##.ytd-topbar-logo-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-logo.style-scope www.youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) www.youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true) www.youtube.com##.ytp-quality-menu [role="menuitemradio"]:has-text(Premium) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row) www.youtube.com##.ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-rich-shelf-renderer.style-scopeHonestly this is better than it was - prior to this change the shorts were just mixed in with the regular videos … now at least you can scroll past them and see only videos.
Shorts are cancer yes?
Youtube is so aesthetically and functionally unappealing nowadays, I lose interest in browsing even my own subs. I don’t care what users “like me” are watching nor what I “might like”. The only way to see my subs vids is with Piped.
At first shorts were pretty neat, now they’re the same shovel-ware from TikTok. I literally see copy/paste TikToks with the stupid follow animation every few videos, or subway surfer videos that progressively takeover the bottom of the screen with every short. Actual cancer now.
If you happen to use any user script extension already (like Violentmonkey) or don’t want to use a dedicated extension to fix stupid design decisions, I can recommend https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/405614-youtube-polymer-engine-fixes.
You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It’s been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.
I dont know where I have it from (I think somone on reddit posted it), but I use this in the uBlock Origin Filter since 8 month and it removes all my shorts from the subscription:
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-reel-shelf-renderer www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)It will sure break in a couple of month again. It did 8 Month ago and I am sure YT will change the code again at some point.
I do not trust having to many FF Extensions installed from some rando from the Internet, so I like this solution better.
I don’t mind shorts so much but Enhancer for Youtube has the ability to convert shorts to regular videos or hide them.
But the Videos are still only 1 Minute long. I find them a disgrace for my attention span. Before shorts/tiktok people were already arguing how deep a video of 10 Minute really can be and might be giving only a shallow idea of a topic. Going even further down to 1 Minute per topic is too much (less) for me. I prefer videos 20 Minutes+. Mostly 45-60 Minutes hit a decent spot for me to feel like I learned something about a topic. A couple of days ago I watched a 2-parts video of 6h and 5h (over several days) about the Russo-Japanese war. And even that was skimming over a lot of topics (obviously) but afterwards I felt like I understood something. I dont know how a 1 Minute short can transport anything other than just “a feeling of knowledge” - at this point it is basically just entertainment. I already felt 10 Minutes was snack-infotainment short. 1 Minute clips leave me behind like eating candy for dinner: Very unsatisfied. And maybe that is the reason people then click the next tiktok/short, because they actually do not feel satisfied by such a short clip and have the feeling for wanting more. And they satisfy this “more” by switching to another 1-Minute video. Again getting the feeling of more, yet getting less in the end of the day.
Any chance you can drop a link to 11 hours on the Russo-Japanese war? Didn’t even know that was a thing
Sure. Here you go: Part 1, Part2, (there even is a third part) - I strongly advice to watch it on 1.5x, as the speaker is very slow
I liked the very detailed day-by-day turns in the first part as well as the epic sea-fights in the second part. Also the small biography-slides with detailed vitaes of military personal gave a good idea in what time people lived and where they were going. Combined with an endless stream of original photos and drawings of the fights, it was a very dense documentation and gave a good image about war, russia, japan and the though-process of early 20th century military tactics.
True but also to be fair I have attention issues and can’t really sit too long for a whole video but they’re good for a lot of little critical role clips!
Then again I’m on like Tiktok all the time so I’m used to it :3
I think (if it is not a disorder) attention span can be trained. It takes discipline and a true interest into a topic other than just a vague excitement. If you are able to state what topics you are interested in for yourself, you might be able to concentrate on 10-30 Minutes of the same topic. People who are really into The Kardashians are able to watch a whole 50 Minute episode of them. So it is not the problem of concentration for them, it is more that they need something put in front of them for that they can feel a passion or enthusiasm they deeply care about - even it is just The Kardashians. Here is the thing: People have no problem browsing 2h+ of tiktok, but can not concentrate on 10x 20min video? I think if you have a real interest in something you can get through longer videos. Do you look for thing you really care about or do you actively looking for a distraction when you browse tiktok? It is not a bad thing to use it that way. After a long day of work, it can relax your brain browsing real shallow, short clips. But daily, in high doses… then I think it is maybe another reason people do it (escapism, etc.)
I dont know where I have it from
Maybe from here: https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts
I really think i got it from a Reddit comment, but it is good to know the source of it. Thank you.
Also DeArrow extension is really good for removing the clickbait thumbnails and replaces them with a simple still from the video itself. It also removes Emojis and special characters from the titles.
Other essential extensions for YouTube for me are (1) sponsorblock and (2) enhancer for YouTube.
I will also recommend blocktube extension.
Anyone using Arc who needs a boost to block all YouTube bloat, let me know. I created one for myself but haven’t submitted it to the gallery. It hides shorts, suggested search results and some other crap.
The new slider replacement.
I found youtube in particular to use very generic functionq that are used in other places so blocking something small ends up blocking other things, iirc from the long time ago that I wasn’t using piped, blocking youtube premium prompt broke comments or something along those lines
