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  • Sarmyth@lemmy.worldtoLefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comThe US is collapsing
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    19 hours ago

    Clearly most people don’t consider forced labor slavery in a prison environment. At least not in California or any of the other states that allow it.

    I voted against it because I think they are plenty of prisoners that want to work, so we don’t need to be forcing people, but I also understand how people could just consider it a part of the punishment too. I mean, you take away so many rights of a person when you imprison them. What makes this facet special? Is it because we used the magic word slavery and so people suddenly feel guilty because of America’s past?

    The prisons themselves litreally didn’t care enough to even argue against it, which should tell you how little this actually impacts their workforce. My understanding was that people were just getting upset at having to do wildfire related work when things started getting dangerous after they reaped all the rewards and training for that job.

    It’s like being a firefighter for the pay, chili, and comradery, then balking when you are told to go fight a fire. Your average person could do that and probably be fired on the spot. Prisoners don’t get to make that decision.





  • I mean… it’s hard to interpret “the problem is her messaging is she didnt come across as a white man with grievances…” as anything but claiming sexism and racism. There’s hyperbole there, but blaming the loss on those factors assumes that people couldn’t have possibly abstained from voting, or voted against her without those factors. I don’t believe that’s the case.

    Too frequently we call people these things and basically lock them out of discussion. For example, if you called me a racist, I’d no longer trust anything else you said to me because I know myself and clearly you like telling people things you know nothing about. I think that exchange happened with a bunch of people, which is why there were so many people who just assumed many of the things said about Trump were just political lies made to discredit him. After they experienced the same hyperbole themselves.

    That said… theres alot of bigots out there too.










  • You’ve jumped to conclusions. My statements weren’t in defense of her actions, they were an example of what it would take to make me concerned for my safety which was not present if the facts given. To rephrase:

    “If someone started acting suicidal, or like someone was going to die, while driving the car I’m in, I’d fear for my life.”

    You know how people pontificate online about what it would take to make someone’s crazy behavior happen? And to express where you might draw the line in a similar but still hypothetical situation? Yeah that’s all this was.

    There’s no hate for any particular religion within me, besides the generic atheist dislike for extremists that harm others.




  • Yes, with their own interpretation afterwords. What he quoted was me giving examples of things that would concern me, not a recitation of the events of the article.

    One of the ways your average literate person could know that was by the way I didn’t cite the article in any way or the fact that I was describing circumstances with examples unrelated to the Muslim faith.

    The first portion quoted was a response to someone saying he was praying and then when recounting the story they made no mention of praying. I asked for clarification because they literally excuded the information they implied was present. Then Lemmy started hallucinating.