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  • Astroshitting? Are you accusing me of being paid to do this? Dude I just made a comment with another reason someone wouldn’t vote for Biden.

    ‘Don’t be so laissez-faire with your words. You could easily be astroshitting all over the place.’

    My original comment used the words “non-swing state” now you’re saying “oh well, I didn’t know when you said non-swing state I thought maybe it could be a swing state.” You’re silly. You also edited your last comment after I responded to it, which is gross.

    I won’t be wasting my time with responding to you after this 👈😎


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    3 months ago

    Yeah no one takes orders from you take it down a notch kiddo. 😜

    No reasonable person would predict my state would turn in this election. Even our Republican politicians hate trump here 🤣. Trump won’t win my state. I would wager as much money as I could on it lol. Trying to dictate what I do with my vote based off this improbability is silly.

















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    4 months ago

    Stranger,

    I’m happy to discuss and already biased into thinking you’re a nice person because you didn’t start off by being rude to me.🙂

    I would prefer if you told me what you think directly without leading questions. Is that possible?

    I also want to clarify, I know no third party candidate has a chance to win this election. But I believe the only nonviolent path we really have to get out of this two-party system is to elect 3rd party leaders. That is a long term strategy that will take many elections but the only way to get that ball rolling is to slowly build up the membership and votes for third party candidates. The safest way to do that is to encourage people in non-swing states to start voting for them.

    That is my thought process.


  • I am going to try to show you the same kindness and genuineness you are showing me.

    “I’m just saying, your logic only works if enough people dont follow it. That kind of makes it bad advice.” I think this is a key part. I know the vast majority of people that hear my advice will not take it. So I am depending on that. I also feel it’s correct. I think it wouldn’t be unrealistic for me to expect everyone or even most of the people who hear it to take it to heart. Do you think I’m wrong?

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/rfk-fires-staffer-endorsed-trump-reelection-1235002839/ I think I see this news article a different way then you do. I hate rfk and wouldn’t recommend voting for him unless that vote was going to go to trump instead. I also don’t believe most of the votes going to rfk would have gone to Biden. I believe the COVID conspiracist that want to vote for him were much more likely to be trumpers. I think a lot of the fear on the media that all third party votes would ha e otherwise gone to Biden is wrong. I may be crazy but I think of the Dems pied Piper strategy and wonder if this related. They really seem to like catching us in thos lesser of two evils trap. I live in Maryland. The Dems helped far right candidate David Cox get the Republican nominee in our last govenors race. I ended up voting dem because it scared me. Democrat nominee won hands down because Maryland is a blue state but I was tricked. I feel similarly about this presidential election now.

    “When you’re aligning yourself with pro-fascists—or at least have the exact same tactics (minus an exception), you cannot be on the right side of history.” Doesn’t this with us or against us rhetoric feel odd to you? I believe the “unless you live in a swing state” part of my sentiment is what clearly divides me from them.

    “Two party systems are doomed to be a road to fascism. We are reaching the end of that road.” I completely agree and I think we need to start taking a third party exit. I know this is a many election process but starting now is better than later and the safest way to do so is to try to convince as many people in non-swing states to start voting third party. That momentum takes time.

    "It’s a shitty situation for us to have to negotiate. But we’re not the ones gambling with our own lives. We’re gambling with the lives of trans people, women who need abortions, those living in poverty, the environment…just so we can “send a measage?” " As a side note I am not the wealthy cis het man you seem to think I am.

    “All you’re doing is throwing extra danger into the pot and supporting the people who are pushing your same messaging in order to see trump win. Just…how can you justify it?” In this way, by only promoting this idea for voters in non swing states I believe additional risk is minimized. I also believe this is the only way to possible make things better by ballot. Outside of this the only ways I can imagine the USA getting off this “two party road to fascism” (to borrow your elegant words) will create much more misfortune and suffering before getting better.

    Also just to clarify. I know trump is worse on all fronts compared to Biden. Whether it’s Palestine or pro working class policy at home. I hate trump and I also see him winning as the worst case scenario for the election. You don’t have to convince me of any of that. I think our only disagreement really lies in how much additional risk voting third party in non swing states generates but please tell me if you think otherwise.

    Also thanks for talking to me like a normal person 🙂