Vance came off as very likeable. He lied a bunch thats not the point, he was likeable for a lot of people. That matters more than policy sadly.
Vance is dangerous now that he just seems to be a weird okay guy. No one who watched the debate can say Tim won. They both won but vance more so.
Pretty sure humans dont always stab one another. But if thats what you assume will happen, it will just push one person to stab first. We should be rejecting any and all hateful talk and speach. As soon as someone talks about instigating voilence, its no surprise that people start taking pot shots at him.